World — March 25, 2012 11:14 pm

France, Turkey, and the Politics of Genocide


From an American perspective, one could be forgiven for thinking that the French don’t understand freedom of expression.  After all, it was only last year that a bill banning the public wearing of a burqa or niqab drew the support of roughly four out of five French citizens.  Denying the Holocaust has been illegal in France for more than twenty years, and the “positive presentation of drugs” is punishable by massive fines and up to five years in prison.

Most recently, both houses of the French legislature have passed a bill that would make the public denial of the Armenian Genocide of 1915 to 1923 punishable by a whopping fine of 45,000 euros ($57,000) and a year in jail.  The bill’s inexorable advance was halted only when it was referred to the country’s highest court, the Constitutional Council, where it was ruled unconstitutional in February.

But this setback might not spell the end for the criminalization of Armenian Genocide denial.  President Nicolas Sarkozy has asked his government to redraft the bill, his office explaining that “The President of the Republic considers that [genocide] denial is intolerable and must therefore be punished.” Sarkozy’s dogged pursuit of the bill’s passage has his critics wondering about his angle.  Accusations leveled against Sarkozy at home range from attempting to curry favor with French voters of Armenian descent (a small but influential minority of about 500,000) to outright Islamophobia and an effort to prejudice the French people against Turkey’s possible accession to the European Union.

The Turkish response to the legislation can best be described as apoplectic.  In the wake of the bill’s initial approval by the National Assembly last December, Ankara cancelled all bilateral talks with the French government, suspended joint military operations, and denied French warships and military planes permission to dock or land in Turkey respectively.  Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has even gone so far to accuse France of having committed genocide in colonial Algeria and threatened further, unspecified action against France if the bill becomes law.

Turkey’s righteous indignation might be more convincing if it was not also glaringly hypocritical.  When Erdogan, in a speech to parliament, insisted that the French bill “murdered freedom of thought”, he seemed to have forgotten that Article 301 of the Turkish penal code makes it illegal to insult the Turkish nation, ethnicity, or government.  Since its implementation in 2005, Article 301 has been used on many occasions to prosecute writers, journalists, and scholars who have criticized Ankara’s policy of vehement genocide denial or who have otherwise run afoul of the regime.  It would seem, therefore, that Erdogan’s definition of “freedom of thought” is as fluid as is politically convenient.  Whatever the French motives for promulgating its genocide denial legislation and regardless of whether or not such legislation truly suppresses freedom of thought, Turkey simply cannot claim the moral high ground when it comes to free expression.

Moreover, Turkey’s hysterical reaction to the bill has made it abundantly clear that the country is being forced to confront its own checkered history.  In an interview with HPR, Harvard Professor of Armenian Studies James Russell shed some light on why the legislation elicited such a strong Turkish response: “In Turkey itself, denial of the genocide is one of the cornerstones of the culture. There has been a very systematic effort by the Turkish state not only to deny that the genocide took place, but also to eradicate signs that [Armenians] lived there.”  Russell further believes that the French legislation represents an important and long overdue reality check and rejects Turkish claims that the bill is intended to be racist or Islamophobic.  “This isn’t a matter of anti-Turkish bigotry.  [The Bill] stems from a desire for historical recognition.”  Indeed, Russell views recognition as a move that would ultimately benefit Turkey and expressed optimism that such recognition would take eventually gain acceptance.  “One has to encourage a change in Turkish civil values … I think Turkey’s viable future depends on this issue.  There has been a lot of progress and there will be more progress.”

But ultimately, the controversy surrounding France’s bill ceases to be about the skeletons in Turkey’s closet or even about the Armenian Genocide specifically.  Rather, it is a facet of a larger debate between those who would recognize and learn from historical fact and those who would stubbornly continue to deny the undeniable.  As important as it is for Turkey and other governments to acknowledge the truth of the Armenian Genocide in order to reconcile the descendants of the victims with the descendants of the perpetrators, the true value of recognition is as a bulwark against future abuses.  “The Armenian experience was one of the signal dangers of the twentieth century” explains Russell.  The longer a crime is concealed, the longer lies take the place of truth, the easier it is for subsequent crimes connected to the first to proliferate and find acceptance.”

While France’s methods for ensuring the perpetuation of historical fact might run counter to the American concept of constitutional liberty and be perceived by Turks as a grave insult to their national identity, its government is addressing a hugely important issue that deserves the world’s attention.  In the almost 100 years since the extermination of Armenians by the Ottoman Empire and the seven decades that have elapsed since the Holocaust, the world seems no closer to the abolition of mass murder. Tragic chapters on Cambodia, Rwanda, Yugoslavia, and Darfur have instead been written in the annals of history with the blood of millions.  If “Never Again” is to be anything more than just a mantra, perhaps the governments of the world would do well to play an active role in preserving the memory of calamities past.

After all, it was Hitler who wondered on the eve of his genocidal invasion of Poland, “Who still talks today of the extermination of the Armenians?”

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  • Ergun Kirlikovali

    Armenian genocide is a long-discredited political claim, not a court-proven fact.  For scholarly accuracy, one should say “Turkish-Armenian conflict”. 

    On May 19, 1985, about 70 American scholars and historians published in New York Times and Washington Post an open letter, addressed to the U.S. Congress, urging the representatives not to recognize the baseless Armenian claims as the sole truth and nothging but the truth, because the impartial evidence unearthed so far showed “…inter-communal warfare fought by Christan and Muslim irregulars…” against a backdrop of the WWI raging. 

    Armenians took up arms against their own government, terrorized defenseless Turkish villages, joined the invading enemy armies, and the the Ottoman government decided to move them out of the frontlines where the war was waging.  This was a defensive measure taken during a wartime.

    The suffering endured by Armenians are no different than the one suffered by Muslims, mostly Turks, though latter is always ignored in the West dur to bias, bigotry and/or racism.  Genocide claims ignore Turkish suffering at the hands of Armenians and dismisses Armenian revolts, treason, terrorism, territorial demands, turcophobia, Tereset (temporary resettlement) and hence inherently racist and dishonest. 

    What Armenians and their supporters are doing now is called “social reconstruction:, creating memory based on social acts, and history’s facts. 

  • JakeThreefeathers

    “From an American perspective”, Mr. Mazur would do better if he were to show more concern for the mother of all genocides – that of the Native Americans. As well, it would behoove him to pony up that 40 acres and a mule which were promised to the emancipated African slaves.

    Mr. Mazur sits on stolen land, courtesy of the said genocide. When does he plan on apologizing and getting off my land? Surely, Mr. Mazur will not defend the “indefensible.” Surely, he and the rest of the usurpers/interlopers/occupiers will wish to atone and make amends by taking the “high moral road,” right out of the stolen lands of the Native Americans.

    Incidentally, that Hitler quote is as bogus as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It is an obscene hoax perpetrated by the hatemongering Armenian slicks. There is no record that Hitler said any such thing. Just ask Dr. Robert Johns who is of Armenian descent.

    Mr. Mazur could do with a bit more fact-checking before he speaks. Armenian goon squads like the Dashnaks and Hunchaks were massacring all non-Armenian citizens of the Ottoman Empire they could get their bloody hands on, during, before and after 1915. The vicious Armenian terrorists of that era make today’s Osama bin Laden and his crew of hoodlums look like Mickey Mouse operators.

  • Anonymous

     Wow, those arguments are about 10 years old, Mr. Kirlikovali, your government propaganda has moved on. The current denialist arguments are different ones, try to keep up. Though I admit its hard with the Turkish government changing the official view every few decades (first there was an Armenian genocide vs Turks, then everything was called a lie, then it were rogue Kurds, then it was an armed conflict, then your so called defensive measures against women, children and the elderly, now however we have mixture of armed conflict/never happened/rogue Kurds). My humble opinion would be that this approach is due to a bazar mentality, though now you will probably call me turcophobic. Though I like this one “Genocide clams dismiss(…) Armenian territorial demands.” – what?

  • tuule

    The court decision does not prove that Turkey did not commit the Genocide – just vice-versa!

    It only shows how democratic the French Republic is as a state and how far Turkey is from all European values as a state and nation. Its a real pathetic hypocracy  to talk about freedom of speech in another country accusing it for Algerian genocide (While Algerian PM mocked Turkish Government to care more about its own history) at the same time prosecuting its own citizens with Article 301  for even naming that the Genocide occurred, talking crap like it was internal displacement of population and and we are indigenous people in that region though we are Mongoloids in our mentality… 

  • JakeThreefeathers

    Would it make you feel better if Napoleon’s crimes against humanity were cited instead of France’s genocide of the Algerian people 1954-1962 or France’s rape of IndoChina?

    It may interest you to learn that when population difference is taken into account, Napoleon, “the Ogre of Corsica,” is responsible for a larger slaughter than was Hitler. Should not that Little weasel, Sarkozy, be passing a law criminalizing the denial of Napoleon’s unspeakable crimes?

    The Rhino-skinned, shameless hypocrite Pierre lives in a house made of very brittle glass. He should not be throwing stones – not even baguettes.

  • JakeThreefeathers

    By the bye, when are the Armenian denialists going to stop trying to defend the indefensible and start apologizing and pay reparations for the crimes committed by French Armenians in the slaughter of the Algerian people by France?

  • Wilson

    Toynbee calculated that
    some 1,800,000 Armenians had lived in Anatolia prior to the war. Taking into
    account the reports of Toynbee and other aforementioned sources, Britannica has taken the figure of 1,750,000 as
    a reasonable representation of the Armenian population in Anatolia prior to

    Toynbee judges that some 600,000 Armenians died or were massacred during
    deportation, possibly 600,000 more survived in exile, and another 600,000
    either escaped or went into hiding. By independent calculation, McCarthy has
    arrived at the same number of deaths, and many historians either cite Toynbee
    directly or provide similar estimates.

  • SultanThreePostcentralGyrus

    You would be a trully great democratic  president of Turkish Republic- why dont you put your candidacy for the upcoming elections?

  • GLAK

    Selim Döring (historian): They say, “let the events of 1915. historians have judged. “ But asked whether they historians? No. In the Turkish authorities are historians who are called “team A”. When it says “leave the issue to historians,” they meant.Architects of the Republic of Turkey – not thousands. There are several hundred, all of them during the deportation of Armenians in 1915. occupy a particular position. They either knew about these events, either directly participated in them. By and large, these are the same people. They say ‘deportation, massacres, genocide, etc. committed the Young Turks. “ Very good, Who are these Young Turks? All the founders of the republic were the Young Turks.Halil Berktay (historian): The question of state or parastatal Turkey’s position is rather complicated. In 1915-1930gg. Everybody knew about the massacres. Therefore, when we study the historiography of this period have never come across the phrase “this was not, it’s a lie.” The reason is that these events were still fresh in the minds of generations, and everyone knew what really happened. There were also people who are proud of, saying, “if we are not killed, it would have killed them.” In 1926. in the Los Angeles Examiner newspaper was printed an interview with Ataturk. At the time, had already completed the trial of some members of the Young Turk Party. Answering a reporter’s question, Mustafa Kemal said: “These people, whom we now judge, are the authors of the terrible violence and massacres committed against the Christian population of the Ottoman Empire.”Aisha Hyur (analyst-writer): According to the registrations of 1914., In the Ottoman Empire was in 2538 churches, 451 Monastery, and 2,000 schools belonging to the Armenian community. After the deportation of the first thing settled in Armenian towns and villages of the Muslims was the transformation of central and beautiful churches into mosques. The rest of the church was used as warehouses, boiler rooms, etc. The representative of the nationalist wing of Parliament Reza Noor, in a letter to the commander of the Eastern Front Kazim Karabekir (May 25, 1921.) Said: “If we can wipe out the traces of the city of Ani, it will be a great service to Turkey” . It was the capital of a medieval Armenian kingdom. Karabekir in his memoirs, wrote that Reza Nur refused, because the ruins of Ani occupied the same territory as the walls of Istanbul, and to do such work was not easy.Young Turk Party, carrying out the deportation of 1915., Made his accomplices as the masses, and most of the political, administrative and military cadres of the Ottoman state. That is, It was a collective crime. The ideology of the Young Turks came to the present day. It is this continuity, which we may call complicity, despite the fact that it took more than 90 years, makes it impossible to identify the deportation of Armenians in 1915. (Which can be called genocide).

  • GLAK

    Excerpts from the memoirs of the Young Turk leader Mevlana-Zadeh RifatTranslated from the TurkishThe massacre and deportation of the Armenians were the greatest barbarism and heavy political offense.The Party of “Ittihad ve Teraki” convened at the center of a secret meeting where it was decided to destroy all the Armenians, without distinction of sex or age, leaving a single person alive. This decision was entrusted the ad hoc group, which consisted of criminals and thugs, and their direction, “the current troika”, which included Dr. Nazim, Dr. Shakir Behaetdin and Education Minister Sukru.The surface description can not give an idea about this terrible crime.If I can even approximately describe the offense of a historic meeting, highlight the proposals put forward by the actors and arguments reveal dictate their political and social concerns and their “scientific” ability, by the same token, I certainly will render service to the history, causes and identifying the real perpetrators of this crime.Developments in fact, written by me on the basis of competent and knowledgeable posts of persons and the relevant literature. To better acquaint with those responsible for the Armenian events, the organizers and perpetrators of the massacre of Armenians consider it expedient to exactly reproduce the above meeting.***A secret meeting chaired by Talaat gave the first word of Dr. Nazim. Dr. Nazim quavering voice began to expound his views on the question …***At the suggestion of Talaat votes were collected and counted. The results showed that all those present voted unanimously for the complete abolition of all Armenians, not excluding any one person.
    Mevlan Zade Rifat, Türkiye inkilabmin ic yüzü. Halep, 1929, S. 89-93 (in Arabic Alf.)

  • GLAK

    Excerpts from the memoirs of the Young Turk leader Mevlana-Zadeh RifatTranslated from the TurkishThe massacre and deportation of the Armenians were the greatest barbarism and heavy political offense.The Party of “Ittihad ve Teraki” convened at the center of a secret meeting where it was decided to destroy all the Armenians, without distinction of sex or age, leaving a single person alive. This decision was entrusted the ad hoc group, which consisted of criminals and thugs, and their direction, “the current troika”, which included Dr. Nazim, Dr. Shakir Behaetdin and Education Minister Sukru.The surface description can not give an idea about this terrible crime.If I can even approximately describe the offense of a historic meeting, highlight the proposals put forward by the actors and arguments reveal dictate their political and social concerns and their “scientific” ability, by the same token, I certainly will render service to the history, causes and identifying the real perpetrators of this crime.Developments in fact, written by me on the basis of competent and knowledgeable posts of persons and the relevant literature. To better acquaint with those responsible for the Armenian events, the organizers and perpetrators of the massacre of Armenians consider it expedient to exactly reproduce the above meeting.***A secret meeting chaired by Talaat gave the first word of Dr. Nazim. Dr. Nazim quavering voice began to expound his views on the question …***At the suggestion of Talaat votes were collected and counted. The results showed that all those present voted unanimously for the complete abolition of all Armenians, not excluding any one person.
    Mevlan Zade Rifat, Türkiye inkilabmin ic yüzü. Halep, 1929, S. 89-93 (in Arabic Alf.)

  • GLAK

    U.S. – United States Consul LESLIE DAVIS DESCRIBES “deported” Armenians, passing through the plains Harput ON THE ROAD TO Deir Zor Source: United States Official records on the Armenian Genocide 1915-1917, pp. 644, doc. NA/RG59/867.4016/392.
    - CONFIDENTIAL TELEGRAM OF THE AMBASSADOR OF THE STATE SECRETARY Morgenthau Constantinople, July 16, and deportations of Armenians against innocent ektsessy grow and eyewitness reports of the terrible, it is clear that the campaign to destroy the race is in full swing under the pretext of fighting against the rebellion. Protests are also useless as a threat and may induce the Ottoman government for tougher measures as they may so declare absolute opposition to the regime of capitulations and I’m nothing less than the direct power: the possession of the United States will not allow a situation to give an adequate answer. I suggest you inform the warring parties and the leadership of missions.
    Source: United States Official records on the Armenian Genocide 1915-1917, pp. 55, document NA/RG59/867.4016/76
    - AMERICAN CONSULATE No. 71 copies Kharberd, July 24, 1915 Dear Henry Morgenthau, U.S. Ambassador, Constantinople SIR: I have the honor to make the following additions to my notification dated 30 June and 11 July (folder 840.1) relating to the expulsion from the region, more generalmassacre of Armenians as follows …
    … Is no longer a secret: a special program provided by the extermination of the Armenians as a race, nation, but the methods used are so cold-blooded, and barbaric, in fact, so productive, that at first we were not even aware what is going on …
    Fully … confirmed that almost all expelled from there through the two-day, after leaving the city were mercilessly shot or cut, or in any other sposobom.Prichem did not just gangs of Kurds, but basically the accompanying gendarmes and armed exiles “couple” (prisoners) who are released from prison for isstrebleniya expelled Armenians …
    I do not think … that in the history of the world has ever carried a vsobemlyuschee isstreblenie than what is happening in our region, and especially do not believe that the human mind is capable of producing a monstrous and sadistic scheme …
    … what is happening to the so-called even if all were allowed to die on the road. But since most of them were immediately excised, there is no doubt that the running order of the government, there can be no other name, except that it was a general massacre.I have the honor of Your obedient servant, Your humble servant, (Signed): LESLIE A.DEVIS CONSUL Source: NA/RG59/867.4016/269. United States Official Records on The Armenian Genocide 1915-1917. Compiled with an Introduction by Ara Sarafian, London, 2004, PP. 461-462.
    NOW, Henry Morgenthau about his conversation with Talaat Pasha August 8, 1915 I argued in all possible ways with him but he said it was useless, that they have already gotten rid of three quarters, and no one left in Bitlis, Van, Erzurum, and that hatred is so huge: that they should finish the job. I talked to him also about the loss of kommencheskie and he said that they are not interested in what they express it in numbers, and know that it does not exceed five million pounds in the banks, etc. He said that they wanted to deal with the Armenians as well as we treated the blacks. I think he was referring to the Indians. I asked him to make a few exceptions in some cases, which he promised to do.
    Source: United States Diplomacy on the Bosphorus: The Diaries of Ambassador Morgenthau 1913-1916, p. 298

  • GLAK

    During the last month of the massacre of Armenians in Armenia are Kurds and Turks, with the obvious connivance of, and sometimes with the direct assistance of Ottoman authorities. Similar yareznya took place mid-April and in Erzurum, Derdzhane, Aegina, Bitlis, Mush, Sasun, Zeitun and throughout Cilicia.
    Residents without exception carved hundreds of villages in the vicinity of Van. In the Van Armenians kvrtal was besieged by Kurds. At the same time, Constantinople the Ottoman government harassed the peaceful Armenian population.
    In view of these crimes committed by Turkey against humanity and civilization, the Allied governments to publicly declare the Sublime Porte that they impose on all members of the Ottoman government and its agents, personal responsibility for the Armenian for the Armenian massacres.
    Source: PRO, FO371/2488/63095.
    - Viscount Bryce: Speech in the House of Lords Source: House of Lords, Hansard (5th Series), Vol. Xix, October 6, 1915, Cols. 994-1004
    - STATEMENT OF GENOCIDE forced return Ayntap MARASH and Lord Robert Cecil. DEPUTY FOREIGN MINISTER. Speech in the House of Commons Source: House Of Commons, Hansard (5th Series), Vol. LXXV, 16 November 1915, Cols. 1770-1776. - The situation in the Turkish province near North Syrian border. BRITISH CONSULATE Aleppo, November 15, 1922
    My lord,
    I have the honor to announce that the 8th November the Turks notified and Marash Armenians Ayntap and provinces in the west to the Birecik, that they must leave the country within a month. This is done in accordance with the policy by which Christians are not allowed to stay in Turkey. In Ayntap, which in the past, there were about 40,000 Armenians, now only 3000.
    French consular agent in Ayntap Mr. de Sandfort has been moved to Adana and was not replaced by anyone. I have the honor Sincerely Yours truly, James Morgan
    Source: PRO reference:-FO 371/7875/18/E 13,426 Armenian National Institute

  • GLAK

    German – Memorandum Wangenheim, German ambassador to the Ottoman Empire Batman Chancellor Hollweg
    June 17, 1915 deportation of Armenians from their homes in the provinces of Eastern Anatolia and their resettlement in other areas, is ruthlessly …
    It became clear … that the expulsion of the Armenians is caused not only by military considerations. Interior Minister Talaat Bey said this openly Mortsmanu doctor, who now serves in the Imperial Embassy. Talat said: “The Sublime Porte intends to use the World War to cleanse the country from internal enemies – the Christians, so that others could not predotratit is its diplomatic intervention. Such a measure would serve the interests of all the allies of Turkey, especially the Germans, as Turkey will be strengthened in this way … ”
    Source: Politisches Archiv des Auswartigen Amts des Kaiserlichen Deutschlands (Politarchiv). A-19 743, ia Turkei 183. nr. 7122, r 14 086.
    - OT Ambassador in Constantinople (Wangenheim) REYHKANTSLERU (BETMANN Hollweg) Memorandum pr. 07/12/1915 pm A-21 257 Bera, July 7, 1915 an attachment displacement and relocation of the Armenians was limited to 14 days ago, most provinces closest to the eastern theater of war, and some areas in the province of Adana; but then allowed the Porte Porte to extend these measures and on the province of Trabzon, Mamuret-ul-Aziz and Sivas, and applies these measures even if these areas at this time no urozy from enemies. This situation and the methods by which the movement shows that the government really should be the goal of eradicating the Armenian race from the Ottoman Empire. As evidence, I would like to add the following to my previous report: 26th of June, according to reports imperial consul in Trabzon, the Armenians were ordered to leave that area within 5 days of their property had been left under the protection of the authorities. Only patients with an exception was made and later also for widows, orphans, elderly and children up to 5 years for patients and for the Catholic Armenians.
    According to latest reports, however, a greater portion of the exceptions was abolished, and only children and those who could not move left and later were brought to hospitals.
    In general, it has affected some 30,000 people only Trapezudskom vilayet, those who were deported to Mesopotamia in Erzincan. Such a mass movement without the necessary means of transport across many hundreds of kilometers to their destination, where not offered any places to stay, no food and are vulnerable to epidemic diseases, especially typhoid fever, is designed to dogo to cause many casualties, especially among women and children. In addition, the road led through deportation and Kurdish Dersim Wali Trebizond in the open, said the consul, who at my direction pointed to the problems that it can guarantee the security of the transition only to Erzincan. From there, they are practically forced to go through the deported Kurds and other gangs of robbers. For example, the Armenians who were ousted from the plains of Erzurum were ambushed on their way to Harput, Gdy men and children were slaughtered, and women abducted. Imperial Consul in Erzurum called the death toll of Armenians in 3000. In Trabzon, many Armenians converted to Islam in order to avoid the threat of deportation and preserve life and property. In addition to material damage produced by the Turkish state as a result of deportation and expropriation by hardworking and umneyshey of the population, which came into place unworthy replacement Kurds and Turks, our trade interests and the interests of German organizations in this part of the country severely affected.
    Source: Vangenheym DE/PA-AA/R14086
    - MEMORANDUM OF THE DEPUTY AMBASSADOR OF GERMANY IN THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE GOGENLOE-LANDENBURGA REYHKANTSLERU BETMAN_GOLVEGU SEPTEMBER 25, 1915 … recently received the following telegram from Mr. Rosslare, dated 18 number. In the past few days, arrived here on foot from the East, numerous columns of Armenian women and children, they were on the verge of starving to death and should be sent on, if you do not die in a day or two.Order of the Sublime Porte to refrain from deporting those who are still in their homes, is a continuous deception, because some of them are suspicious and it is often used as an excuse (for the deportation of the Armenians).
    In spite of this order is not made an exception for military families. Also ruthlessly expelled ill. Columns deportees way to keep Deir el-Zor and Mosul. Despite assurances from the ports, all directed at the destruction of the Armenian people. The Armenians have asked me to inform Your Excellency of everything …
    Source: Politisches Archiv des Auswartigen Amts des Kaiserlichen Deutschlands (Politarchiv). A-28 578, ia Turkei 183. nr. 7129, R 14 088.
    - FROM THE AMBASSADOR EXTRAORDINARY Mission in Constantinople (Wolff-Metternich) REYSKANTSLERU (BETTMAN-Hollweg) Note pr. 07/14/1916 pm A53a/1916/1952 A-18 548 therapy, July 10, 1916 destruction of the Armenians in the eastern provinces came to the final stage. ……. Source: Metternich DE/PA-AA/R14092

  • GLAK

    French – FRENCH CONSUL IN THESSALONIKI Seon French Foreign Minister DELKASSU T. N. 110 THESSALONIKI, 20 August 1915, 18:30 (20:55 RECEIVED) (RECEIVED: 20:55) Message
    From various reliable sources I have received information that the Armenians were being persecuted, not only in Constantinople, but also in vilaetah.Chislo isstreblennyh Armenians in the empire dostogaet 200,000 and if this situation will last a long time, this nation will be fully isstreblen …
    (AMAE, Guerre 1914-1918, Turquie, tome 887, f. 179). A. Beylerian, les grandes puissances, l’empire ottoman et les armeniens dans les archives francaises (1914-1918), p. 58.
    - REPORT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DECEMBER Armenian pogroms, 1915 … The number of Armenians who were missing were killed, forcibly converted to Islam, kidnapped during the mass deportation of Armenians from Armenia had reached 500,000. ….. (AMAE, Guerre 1914-1918, Turquie, tome 887, ff. 250-254 v). A. Beylerian, les grandes puissances, l’empire ottoman et les armeniens dans les archives francaises (1914-1918), p. 151
    - Marcel Cachin, MP Sena ARISTIDE Briand MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF PARIS, 19 DECEMBER 1915 From the Stories of credible witnesses for their brutality riots exceed the pogroms of 1894-1895 and the year 1915 filled with blood all …… Armenia in 1915, one million of these accidents were isstrebleny led by former pupil of the Berlin Military Academy, Enver Pasha, with the complicity of German officers and consuls. The Committee of Foreign Affairs of the House was informed Mr Aharonyan a new attempt isstrebleniya entire nation. The tragic story of a prominent Armenian confirmed reports of American and Swiss missionaries and consuls, which are included in the last book of the distinguished Lord Bryce. No one … can not remain indifferent to the martyrdom of the people, doomed to isstreblenie. In response to the misfortunes of France today will raise their voices in protest against these heinous crimes in the tradition of generosity and kindness.
    AMAE, Guerre 1914-1918, Turquie, tome 887, ff. 244-245v). A. Beylerian, les grandes puissances, l’empire ottoman et les armeniens dans les archives francaises (1914-1918), p. 148
    PRO reference:-FO 371/5043/E1168/folio 20 Armenian National Institute Austrian – NO. 79/P.-A Constantinople SEPTEMBER 30.1915 deportation of Armenians Into ASIA MINOR EARL TRAUTMANSDORF Baron Burian All the rumors coming from Armenian sources from Asia Minor have reported unprecedented atrocities committed during the deportation of the Armenians. Bearing in mind the sources, we can agree that this information may be exaggerated, but unfortunately they are confirmed in a memorandum to the representatives of banks and their branches, the German officers, and many other testimonies.
    Witnesses love to confess about the terrible events that take place during the evacuation of villages inhabited by Armenians. These memoranda we have received from our consulates in Damascus and Trebizond. Most of the men was isstreblena, women and children are sold for a pittance Turks.They were those who were sent into the country, to the final goal came less than one-tenth of the majority of road deaths from deprivation, disease and exhaustion. Today, it is impossible to deny that the Turks, nesotmenno used as a pretext cases of treason to destroy the Armenian race, and it seems that it is mainly they were able. Talaat Bey recently told me with satisfaction that, for example, in Erzurum is unlikely to stay at least one Armenian. All the rumors suggest that the activities undertaken by the government against the Armenians have claimed more lives than the massacres of Abdul Hamid …
    HHStA PA XII 209 Nr 79/PA, Osterreich-Armenien 1872-1936, Ffaksimilesammlung Diplomatischer Aktenstucke, Herausgegeben und Eingeleitet von mag. Dr. Artem Ohandjanian, Band vi, 1914-1915, Wien, 1995, ss. 4754-4755
    - NO. 79/P.-A annex to the note DIRECTIONAL DECEMBER 22, 1917, Foreign Minister of Austria-Hungary Ottokar Czernin FROM THE AMBASSADOR Austria-Hungary in TURKEY PALAVICHINI, number 2 APPENDIX SOME NOTES ON CHRISTIANS IN TURKEY ISSTREBLENII Diyarbekir Governorate – shehir Faithful – a small town in Urfa area with a population of 1,400 and 140 Armenian Assyrian families, 400 families in the early summer were completely expelled. All the men were killed.Wealthy families with women and children were killed.
    In Severeke all the men killed, women and children, a total of 300 families expelled. The population of most of the Jacobite villages destroyed.
    Chaldean population of four villages near Diyarbakir cut, along with his priest.
    In Mardin: all Armenians of the city along with his archbishop and ten priests were exiled and then killed on the road …
    The Diocese of … Sgerda: 450 lived in the city of the Armenian, Chaldean, and 30 120 Jacobite families – they robbed, murdered or expelled ……
    In Urfa …: Urfa, formerly Edessa, the capital of King Abgar, went to a terrible fate. Christians, whose numbers more than 25,000 have been three times subjected to cruel plunder, slaughter and torture; quarters of the city were attacked and destroyed by artillery. Their bishop, together with priests and prominent citizens, about 500 people were imprisoned before being put to death, they say, and then were sent to Diyarbakir, and the road had been cut. Thousands of orphaned works are currently in Muslim families: many of these accidents are now dying in the streets of Urfa from hunger.Muslim residents of Urfa, together with the authorities personally took part in the massacre, they looted the property of Christians.
    A large part of Armenia, Kurdistan and Mesopotamia became the scene of barbaric and horrific scenes. The mouths of rivers, lakes, valleys and caves full of corpses. During the Euphrates and Tigris is decaying corpses. In these places the travelers met with the Armenians and Chaldeans, wandering from city to city, from village to village. They were expelled from their towns and villages, they sleep in the open, exposed to summer and winter frost znoyu All of them were sentenced to a horrible death. In other parts of the fate of Christians in Turkey is very uncertain. They are constantly under threat of death.
    HHStA PA XII 209 Nr 79/PA, Osterreich-Armenien 1872-1936, Ffaksimilesammlung Diplomatischer Aktenstucke, Herausgegeben und Eingeleitet von mag. Dr. Artem Ohandjanian, Band vi, 1914-1915, Wien, 1995, ss. 4754-4755

  • GLAK

    Turkish – Talaat Pasha’s official decrees relating to the Armenian massacre in March 1915 – January 1916 March 25,Cemal Bey in 1915, the delegate from Adana: Duty to make the most of each, it is possible to implement a plan to clear the existence of the noble elements are known for centuries been a barrier to the progress of the empire to civilization. Therefore, we should take on itself the responsibility to devote himself to this task, regardless of the circumstances, and always keeping in mind how big a sacrifice, to which the government has gone to get involved World War II. We must work so that the means used have led us to the desired end. In this letter, dated 18th February, we announced that Dzhamiet decided to uproot and destroy the various forces that for centuries have been a hindrance for this purpose he had recourse to a very bloody methods. Certainly the sight of these methods terrifies us, but there is no other Dzhemieta means to ensure the stability of their work. Ali Riza [the authorized representative of the Board, Aleppo] severely criticized us and forced us to be compassionate, this is nothing more than a simple stupidity. We’ll find a place for all those who do not cooperate with us, the place in which overwhelm delicate strings of their hearts. Let me remind you of the problem property. It is very important. Watch out for the redistribution always priveryayte accounts and profit from the proceeds. Dzhemiet
    - September 3, 1915 Prefecture of Aleppo: We offer also include women and children in those orders that had previously belonged only to men.Choose reliable people to implement these obyahyatelstv. Talaat, Minister of the Interior.
    - September 16, in the Prefecture of Aleppo: you have already informed the government on the orders of Dzhemieta decided to completely destroy all the people mentioned [the Armenians] living in Turkey. All those who oppose this decision and order can not remain on the official service of the Empire. Their existence must be stopped, how tragic it had not had the means. No need to pay attention to age or sex and remorse. Talaat, Minister of the Interior.
    - November 18, 1915 in the Prefecture of Aleppo: From the intervention of U.S. Ambassador [Mr.Morgentau] in Constantinople, which were made on behalf of his government, it became clear that American consuls have information from some secret source. They are hard to convince, despite our assurances that the deportation would take place in safety and with all amenities. Be cautious: that the events that draw attention to themselves do not occur with those who are near cities and other centers. From the standpoint of our present policy, the most important thing is to convince foreigners that the displacement of the Armenians is just deportation.Consequently, it is important that the time was used a soft approach and the usual activities were carried out at convenient locations. All those who will provide other information will be arrested and handed over to military authorities for trial in military tribunaluh. This order is very important. Talaat.
    - December 11, 1915 in the Prefecture of Aleppo: We have been informed that some of the correspondents of Armenian journals and letters become pictures that depict the tragic sobyatiya and they gave it to the American Consulate in Aleppo. Such dangerous people should be arrested and put down. The Minister of the Interior, Talaat.
    - December 29, 1915 in the Prefecture of Aleppo: We were informed that foreigners found dead along the roads of these people and taking pictures of them. These bodies should be immediately buried and no let them lie near the roads. This order is very important. The Minister of the Interior, Talaat.
    - January 15, 1916 the Government of Aleppo: We are informed that in some orphanages novotkrytye also accept Armenian children. Is whether this is due to neglect our true purpose or through ignorance, the Government will consider providing these children with food or other efforts to lengthen their lives as an act totally contrary to our purpose, since it considers the rescue of these children as a harmful phenomenon. I recommend orphanages do not take these children and do not attempt to arrange for them to special orphanages. The Minister of the Interior, Talaat.
    - (Nedatirovannyy.) from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Prefecture of Aleppo: Only those orphans who do not remember the horrors inflicted on their parents to be collected and receive care. Send the rest along with the caravans. The Minister of the Interior, Talaat.
    Source Records of the Great War, Vol. III, ed. Charles F. Horne, National Alumni 1923

  • GLAK

    The American historian, David Keith Ueytenpof: the Turks have to accept the fact that the Armenian Genocide – a part of their past.
    One of the most brutal atrocities of the 20th century, the Armenian Genocide, as well it should be remembered as an example of building a modern humanist movement, writes the historian at the University of California, David Keith Ueytenpof in his work on the activities of the League of Nations during the Armenian Genocide. This site says the University of California at Davis.
    In an article published in the «American Historical Review», the largest American historical journal, professor notes that this was the first time that a major international organization stepped in to try to help refugees and survivors of genocide. The author stresses that this work involved many Americans.
    Ueytenpof examined a study by the League of Nations, which presents the history of some 2,000 Armenian girls, boys and young women who managed to escape.
    In the beginning, men and boys older were captured and executed. The survivors were women and children, who often were sold as servants and concubines, writes Ueytenpof.
    However, in my opinion, one of the shortcomings of the League of Nations was that they tried to present the problem as a conflict between Christianity and Islam. ”The politicization of issues often brings refugees to more harm than good,” – he writes.
    The scientist hopes his research will contribute to reconciliation by creating a better understanding of the common past, including Turkey, where the government still insists on the fact that genocide was committed.
    This work, he argues, can help “modern Turks to accept the fact that the Armenian Genocide as part of their past.”

  • GLAK

    The Armenian Genocide in Ottoman Turkey as genocide the first of the XX century is the destruction of 1.5 million Armenians during the 1915 – 23 years. in Western Armenia and other parts of the Ottoman Empire, organized and systematic realization of the Young Turk rulers.
    Go to the Armenian Genocide should also include the massacres of the Armenian population in Eastern Armenia and the Caucasus as a whole, committed by the Turks, invaded the Caucasus in 1918, and the Kemalists during the aggression against the Republic of Armenia in September. – Dec. 1920, as well as the Musavat organized pogroms of Armenians in Baku and Shusha in 1918 and 1920, respectively. In view of the victims due to the Turkish authorities chinivshihsya periodic massacres of Armenians, starting from the end of the XIX century., The number of victims of the Armenian Genocide is more than 2 million
    Acts of genocide are the mass killings, beatings, torture, rape of Armenians in Sumgait in February. 1988 and in Baku in January. 1990, committed by gangs of Caucasian Tatars (Azerbaijanis), chauvinists with the connivance of the authorities and law enforcement bodies of Azerbaijan. These acts are completely covered by the first three paragraph two of Article 1948 of the UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment. Therefore, inspirations, instigators, organizers and perpetrators of these acts in Sumgait and Baku, including informal leaders of the then People’s Front of Azerbaijan, must be prosecuted as international criminals.
    There are similarities between the genocide of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire in 1915-23 and 1988-90 in the Azerbaijan SSR. In both cases, genocide was used as a response to the desire to self-determination of the Armenians on their land, the right to reclaim their national territory, and reunify their homeland atomized. In both cases, there were actions that are different in scale but similar in nature, defined by the 1948 Convention as acts of genocide, including the forced deportation of the Armenian population.Recognition of the Armenian Genocide in Turkey in 1915-23 is of fundamental importance for the Armenian people, because the genocide was used to end the Armenian question.Recognition of the Genocide
    Even during the genocide (1915-1923) world powers have adopted resolutions condemning the Armenian massacres. U.S. three times (1916, 1919, 1920) have adopted similar resolutions, but to stop the actions of the Ottoman Empire failed. In the 1915th, France, Russia and Velikobratianiya issued a joint declaration condemning the extermination of the Armenians also.
    Genocide is recognized and condemned by many countries and influential international organizations. The first officially recognized the Armenian genocide and condemned Uruguay (1965).
    The Armenian Genocide recognized as the Council of Europe (1998.2001), the European Parliament (1987.2000, 2002.2005), the UN Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities, UN Commission on War Crimes (1948), the World Council of Churches, etc. Destruction of Armenian genocide officially recognized (in accordance with international law) and sentenced:
    France (1998, 2000, 2001.2006), Germany, Italy, Belgium, Sweden, Netherlands, Switzerland, Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Greece, Slovakia, Cyprus, Lebanon, Uruguay (1965, 2004), Argentina (2 of the Act, 5resolutions), Venezuela, Chile, Canada (1996, 2002.2004), the Vatican. In some EU countries (eg Switzerland, Belgium) for denying the historical fact of the Armenian Genocide included criminal penalties (a fine of 45 thousand euros, up to 1 year imprisonment). October 12, 2006 the French parliament passed a bill under which the denial of the Armenian Genocide will be a criminal offense, like denying the Holocaust. U.S. House of Representatives (1975, 1984, 1996) and 41 of the 50 U.S. states have officially recognized and condemned the Armenian Genocide, but also declared April 24 Day of Remembrance of the Armenian genocide. Similar decisions were made by Wales, the Basque Parliament (Spain) and Australia.Below we present a short list of influential international organizations and the media have recognized the Armenian Genocide. - The Elie Wiesel Foundation for Humanity – April 9, 2007 – Human Rights Association of Turkey, Istanbul Branch – April 24, 2006 – International Center for Transitional Justice Report Prepared for TARC – February 10, 2003 – European Alliance of YMCAs – July 20, 2002 – Council of Europe, Parliamentary Assembly, Declaration – April 24, 2001 – Le Ligue des Droits de l’Homme – May 16, 1998 – Council of Europe, Parliamentary Assembly, Declaration – April 24, 1998 – The Association of Genocide Scholars - June 13, 1997 – Parlamenta Kurdistane Li Derveyi Welat – April 24, 1996 – Union of American Hebrew Congregations – November 7, 1989 – Permanent Peoples’ Tribunal, Verdict of the Tribunal – April 16, 1984 – World Council of Churches – August 10, 1983 – UN Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities – July 2, 1985 – UN War Crimes Commission Report – May 28, 1948 – UN General Assembly Resolution – December 9, 1948 – New York Times (2004), BBC ( 2007), Washington post, Associated Press, etc.

  • JakeThreefeathers

    That’s a very clever moniker, mon ami. Sheer genius indeed. Did yoy think of it all by your little self?

    One needs to be a resident and citizen of that country in order to hold public office. I believe the same rule applies in the U.S., Upper Volta, Fredonia, Barbunya and Dashnakistan as well.

    Not for nothing but when will the Armenian slicks and Machiavellian machinators apologize and pay reparations for the crimes of the Nazi-employed ARMENIAN BRIGADE? This twenty-thousand-strong band of Armenian death squads volunteered and was tasked by Hitler’s regime to hunt and exterminate Jews in German-occupied lands during WWII. These expert Armenian killers went about their extermination of Jews with relish and gusto. Their German Nazi bosses were pleased.

  • Sard

    Indeed, “the historical events are repeated twice: first as tragedy, the second - as farce.”During the Second World War, France was left without allies, Nazi Germanysurrendered. Now, France (Sarkozy exact) with ”help” its ally - the U.S. -capitulated to the Nazi Turkey. Without taking into account all that was then and will in the near future - it is a fact, France is not the same, and will repeat the fate of many of its predecessors and its role in the world will fall to Italy.Turks is a farce as neo. About Al-called general talk is meaningless.What do they expect? Integrity of the Armenians, Greeks, stubborn, resentfulArabs and unconsciousness of the West - that’s their environment.

  • Sard

    Another element of the irrationality of politics in Turkey shows that it is impossible to determine where it ends domestic politics, and where the external begins. In foreign policy: spoiled relations with France because of the law on the Armenian Genocide, went to Israel because of the problems of Palestinian settlement, strained relations with Greece because of the Cyprus problem is not simple, and with neighboring Iran because of the agreement to host the territory of the U.S. radar, complicated relationship with Baghdad because Sunni problem, there are – while not advertised – the problem with Russia over Syria. Along the way, Turkey is forced to publicly acknowledge the Kurdish factor, and now all is the fact that a number of them stand up and the “Armenian question”. By the way, Erdogan and his party had promised to solve the Kurdish problem in the articles of the new Constitution of the Turkish state, which should be developed in the first half of this year. However, judging by the debate in parliamentary committees, to achieve the necessary compromise between the Turkish political forces are unlikely, although the introduction of civil and democratic innovation is one of the requirements for entry into the EU.

  • JakeThreefeathers

    Right you are. And we believe your sources just as we believed the Andonian forgeries.

    If the Armenians believe they have a solid case, why on God’s green earth they adamantly refuse to take it to the Hague instead of taking it to vote and money hungry, ethnic-pandering politicians.? What are the Armenians afraid of? What are they hiding?

    The reason they are afraid to take it to a competent court is that their case of a genocide is nothing but an obscene canard. Citing the principle of FALSUS IN UNO, FALSUS IN OMNIBUS, even a freshly minted law school graduate could tear the Armenian case apart in a New York minute. And we do know that the clever-by-half Armenians have been caught with more than falsus in uno – the Andonian forgeries and the phony Hitler quote among many other whoppers.

    The hatemongering Armenian ultras love to draw a parallel between the genuine Holocaust of European Jewry and the Armenian canard of a genocide. But is it not curious that unlike the Armenians, the Jewish people have never resorted to forgeries, fakeries and fabrications in order to prove their case for the Holocaust? Go figure.

  • Dark131313

    Please be informed.

  • Dark131313

    Read Ahmet Davutoglu’s Strategic Depth doctrine. It explains why domestic and foreign affairs are not separate domains and how to handle them together with synergy.

  • Dark131313

    OK. tuule. Show me one name who had been prosecuted
    in Turkey
    with article 301 because he/she denied Armenian genocide ? There is none. 

    If you want to know why 1915 events do not qualify to be a genocide, read Bernard Levis, Justin McCarthy, Guenter Lewy and Andrew Mango on the matter. 

  • Dark131313

    An American historian, Bernard Lewis, Professor Emeritus of Near Eastern Studies at Princeton University says that 1915 events is not a genocide.

    Another American historian, Justin McCarthy, Professor of Middle East history at University of Louisville, refuted all the so-called evidences of so-called armenian genocide by showing who fabricated them and how. (this is part 1 of 8)

    Relying on the 3rd party archives, Prof. Guenther Lewy had shown the involvement of European powers and Russia in armanent of Armenian population, and how armenian gangs slaugthtered 500000 muslims and 50000 jews while Ottoman army (and almost all of the male population) was fighting WW1.  Armenians never talk about how it started.
     Prof. Guenther Lewy also checked the origin of amenian evidences and shown that original documents and Armenian allegations are not consistent.  Guenther Lewy was accused of being funded by Turkish government but then allegations turned out to be false. 

    The 1915 events are highly researched and the facts are now so clear that it was not a genocide. However, it turned into a propaganda war and Armenian side is doing quite well in this.

    The current position of Turkish State is to establish a forum of historians, open state archives and leave the issue to historians. Armenians do not accept this proposal, they resort to lobbying western states to pass genocide bills, and fund a propaganda war. 
    One interesting point in the genocide bills is that they not only accept so-called armenian genocide as a fact but also they ban any counter argument and discussion of it. Why would you ban even scientific discussion of this matter? 

    This issue now became a dimension of identy for Amenian people. This is primary national goal. It seems that Armenian politicians had found the easiest way to fool their people away from the realities of their current social and economic backwardness. Their only hope and plan to bring prosperity to their people is to get reparations  from Turkey.
    However, more pathetically, politicians in France put their self-interests in getting Armenian votes over the interests of their people. French companies are not invited to many state tenders in Turkey and they lost many business opportunities just because Sarkozy wanted to get Armenian votes. 


  • Dark131313

    Please take a look at “The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey: A Disputed Genocide”  by  Guenter Lewy is professor emeritus of political science, University of Massachusetts.

  • Massis

    Hi Chief: following your suggestion, I asked Dr. Johns about Hitler’s  quote.  He said that you’re full of ‘it’; he also said that you’re ashamed of your Turkishness, therefore hiding behind American-Indian names.  Your nasty comments in this forum will change no one’s views on the Armenian Genocide.  

  • JakeThreefeathers

    As we have the Armenian eager beavers here, perhaps we can avail ourselves of their considerable expertise. 

    I will be embarking upon a nostalgia tour of Europe and Asia. The tour will include a couple days stop in France. Now, having been a law-abiding hombre all my life, I have no intention of breaching any Dashnakian dogma, aka French law. Questions :

    1. I know that if I were to say, for example, “Armenians are a slick and devious lot and they lie a lot. The Armenian allegation of genocide is the biggest scam of the twentieth century,” this would land me in jail for a year with a seventy-thousand-dollar fine to boot. 

    But would I be breaking French law if I were to simply say, ” I do not care a rat’s ass if it were a genocide, or if it were an obnoxious Armenian hoax?” 

    2. While residing in the U.S., if I were to say, “I reject the Armenian allegation, or as Rev. Jesse Jackson would put it, ‘I not only deny the allegation, I deny the allegator,’ would Nicolas Sarkozy send Chief Inspector Jacques Clauseau after me? Or could he try to extradite me to France for prosecution? Could he file an extradition demand with our DOJ or DOS? 

    3. While the penalty for violating this French law, aka Armenian dogma, is a year in jail and a seventy-thousand-dollar fine, what is the penalty for subsequent violations of this law? Would the penalty increase for second and more violations, or would it still remain as one year jail and seventy-thousand-dollar fine? Let us assume that the penalty for secondary and tertiary offenses would remain the same as the first-time offense. What if I were to “deny” the “Armenian genocide” one billion times? Would I then be sentenced to one billion years in prison and the monetary fine of $70,000,000,000,000?

    4. There would be about 80 million people in Turkey who would be in violation of this French law, aka Dashnakian dogma. What would that monsieur who ails with the Napoleon complex do? Would this little Sarkozy send the Surete or the Deuxieme Bureau to arrest 80 million denizens of the Turkish Republic? Or would he dress Armenian hoodlums in French uniforms to go on a murderous orgy in eastern Anatolia, as France did during WWI?

  • GLAK

    About your Guenter LewyFor details, see also: The Turkish Military Tribunal of 1919-1920Guenter Lewy is the only historian who actually deny the genocide of the Armenians, Gypsies and Indians. Arguing their point of view in the article «Revisiting the Armenian Genocide» Levy notes that the Armenian genocide was disputed by many Turkish and Western historians. According to Levy’s thesis on the Armenian Genocide is based on three dubious arguments: the decisions of the military tribunal in 1919, the role of the Special Organization in the massacre of the Armenians and the memoirs of Naim Bey, Talaat telegrams containing the destruction of the Armenians. Levy believes that the tribunal was held under the pressure of the Entente to discredit the regime of the Young Turks and corresponds to the western standards of justice. The most serious problem of this tribunal Levy believes the loss of all his records and the inability to match the materials published in the Turkish press the original court documents. As an example, Levy leads the analysis conducted Dadryanom indictment Vehib Pasha, while according to the Levy is known only to the indictment, and the remaining material is lost. According to Levy, the approval of the ad hoc organization is not based on arguments, but on assumptions. Contrary to the memoirs of Naim Bey Levy refers to the work of Turkish authors Shinasi Orel (Turkish Şinasi Orel) and Sureya Yudzha (Turkish Süreyya Yuca), believing that the Armenians deliberately destroyed “original” to forgery of documents has not been proven [42].Macdonald, criticizing the position of Levi Dadryanom agrees that, speaking of the academic divisions and equal points of view on the Armenian Genocide, Levy actually leads only openly pro-Turkish and Turkish sources. Arguments Levy of the deliberate destruction of documents on the massacre of Armenians McDonald finds similar arguments of Holocaust deniers, refuting the diaries of Anne Frank and the gas chambers [43].A detailed criticism of the articles contained in the Levy Vahagn Dadrian («Vahakn Dadrian responds to Guenther Lewy») and Taner Akcam («Review Essay: Guenter Lewy’s The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey»). Dadrian said that the article is full of mistakes Levy, in some cases, conscious, and that it shows the poor knowledge of Levy’s Turkish and especially Ottoman-Turkish language.Commenting on Levy regret the disappearance of the archive Tribunal, Dadrian notes that this event coincided remarkably with the capture of Istanbul Kemalists in 1922 [44].Akcam also notes that in the Levi’s many factual errors, employees reasonably believe that it is doubtful. After criticism Dadrian Lewy, using this story as a preface to the book [45], corrected some errors, however Akcam found many factual errors in the corrected version. In criticizing the content of the article, Akcam said that despite the political nature of these bodies, the statement about the injustice of Levi “trial winners” might as well be applied to all similar vessels: the Nuremberg Trial, Criminal Court for former Yugoslavia and other Akcam said thatstating that there is no evidence Vehib Pasha, Levy did not know that the press of this period is fully printed his testimony and the testimony Vehib Pasha found in the archives of the Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem, and the texts are identical with each other and are consistent with excerpts from the testimony contained in the indictment. A similar opportunity to test the reliability of the materials by comparing the Tribunal published newspapers, memoirs, archives of the Armenian Patriarchate of Jerusalem and the texts of indictments Akcam sees and for all other cases [46].
    42. ↑ Guenter Lewy. Revisiting the Armenian Genocide / / Middle East Quarterly, Fall 2005, pp. 3.1243. ↑ MacDonald. Identity Politics in the Age of Genocide. The Holocaust and historical representation. - P. 139-140.44. ↑ Vahakn Dadrian Dr. Vahakn Dadrian responds to Guenther Lewy (October 18, 2005). Archived from the original June 4, 2011. Retrieved on September 5, 2011.45. ↑ Guenter Lewy. The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey: A Disputed Genocide (Salt Lake City: University of Utah Press, 2004)46. ↑ Taner Akcham. Review Essay: Guenter Lewy’s The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey. / / Genocide Studies and Prevention 3, 1 (April 2008): 111-145 

  • GLAK

    Bernard Lewis’s Case
    Issued a statement in the newspaper The New York Times on May 19, 1985March 19, 1985 in the newspaper The New York Times and The Washington Post group of 69 American historians, among whom were known to researchers as an advertisement issued a statement in which they urged the U.S. Congress not to adopt the resolution on Armenian genocide [56] [57 ]. Among the signatories was a renowned historian Bernard Lewis (English) (born Bernard Lewis), whose name became known as the statement [57] [58] [59]. The publication of an advertisement paid for Turkish Assembly USA [57]. Richard Hovannisian notes that the important role played in this publication Heath Lowry, director of the Institute of Turkish Studies, in which many of the signatories of the letter received grants [60].According to Peter Suryanu majority of signatories of the letter probably had direct or indirect benefits from the Turkish government [61]. Armenian Assembly of the United States reviewed the list of 69 signatories of the letter, and they receive grants and showed that the majority of them are experts on the Armenian Genocide, and, more importantly, that a large number of signatories were the recipients of grants from the Turkish official sources [62]. Speros Vironis (English) (English Speros Vyronis, Gr. Σπύρος Βρυώνης), analyze the list, also concludes that a significant number of signatories and their institutions were the direct recipients of funds from Turkey [62].Reservations signatories of the letter focused on the words “Turkey” and “genocide.” Thus, the letter indicated that the territory of present-day Turkey is the only part of the Ottoman Empire and the use of the resolution of the term “Turkey” is unacceptable. Yves Ternon in this regard, notes that in his works signed letter to take a more liberal criteria, as Bernard Lewis has only one chapter of the book «The Emergence of Modern Turkey» used the term “Turkey” instead of “Ottoman Empire” odinnadat times, and the arguments of signatories against the use of the definition of genocide is not acceptable. Following the publication of statements Sorbonne professor Gerard Shalyan (English) (Fr. Gérard Chaliand) expressed disappointment with his signature, writing a letter to Bernard Luce, who replied that the reason for this statement was reluctant to spoil the US-Turkish relations and that the statement calls on Turkey to open its archives. Shalyan Lewis said that is incorrect, if not unfair – to say that the reason is the lack of evidence to prove cases of genocide against the Armenian population in Anatolia during the war, when in fact the reason there were fears in some way attempts to destabilize NATO [57].Director, Institute for Holocaust and Genocide Israel Charny, as he said in shock from the application, wrote a letter to each of the signatories of the statement, which asked a series of detailed questions: what do they think about the death of Armenians in Turkey, do they deny the Armenian genocide, if they felt thatArmenians distort the facts and what they think of the signatories of an advertisement. The results of the survey assesses Charney as “an impressive showing that at least some researchers have recognized that there were mass killings of Armenians, in fact without questioning the fact of the Armenian Genocide, even though none of them disagreed with the use of the word” genocide “, and some acknowledged that there is a deliberate obfuscation and denial of the issue by the Turks. “ Preliminary data from the survey were published in 1990 «Internet on the Holocaust and Genocide» [63].According to Yair Oron is a sales letter, urging not to hurry with the recognition of the Armenian genocide before it will be published by the Turkish archives, is an example of another attempt to influence Turkey’s academic environment, for which Turkey spent a lot of money and effort [64].In October 2000, when the U.S. House of Representatives rssmatrivalas another resolution on the Armenian genocide, in the newspaper “Milliyet” Turkish politician Mustafa Sukru Elekdag (Turkish Mustafa Şükrü Elekdağ) complained that the statement of 69 scientists have been useless because none of them, except forJustin McCarthy does not want to sign a new declaration. Elekdag is explained by two factors: the fact that scientists are afraid of the Armenian rebels and the Turkish archives, about the secrecy mentioned in the declaration has not been discovered [65] [66].
    56. ↑ Richard G. Hovannisian. Remembrance and denial: The Case of the Armenian Genocide. - Wayne State University Press, 1998. - P. 241. - 328 p. - ISBN 081432777X, ISBN 978081432777757. ↑ 1 2 3 4 Yves Ternon. The «Lewis Affair» / / Richard G. Hovannisian.Remembrance and denial: The Case of the Armenian Genocide. - Wayne State University Press, 1998. - P. 237. - 328 p. - ISBN 081432777X, ISBN 9780814327777The «Lewis Affair» began in the United States on May 19,1985, with the publication, both in the New York Times and in the Washington Post, of an advertisement addressed to members of the House of Representatives. The statement was signed by sixty-nine academics in Turkish studies and sponsored by die Assembly of Turkish American Associations. Among the signatories was die name of Bernard Lewis, the Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History at Princeton University.58. W. D. Rubinstein. Genocide: a historyyu Pearson Education, 2004. ISBN 0-582-50601-8, 9780582506015. P.145This was an element in the so-called ‘Lewis Affair’, which occurred in 1985 when Professor Bernard Lewis of Princeton University, one of the world’s leading experts on modern Turkish history, signed a statement addressed to the American Congress concerning the inclusion of the Armenian genocide in a proposed ‘National Day of Remembrance of Man’s Inhumanity to Man’ .7059. ↑ Yair Auron. The Banality of Denial: Israel and the Armenian Genocide. - Transaction Publishers, 2004. - P. 226-227. - 338 p. - ISBN 076580834X, ISBN 9780765808349The rationalization of the Armenian Genocide began to take root in Western academic circles in the 1980s, and was further strengthened by the hiring of Bernard Lewis at Princeton University. Lewis is one of the most prominent specialists on the Middle East – some would say the most distinguished historian of the Middle East. Lewis’ stature provided a lofty cover for the Turkish national agenda of obfuscating academic research on the Armenian Genocide.  Later on Bernard Lewis reversed his position and changed the text. In 1985 he signed a petition to the US Congress protesting the plan to make April 24, the day on which the Armenians commemorate the victims of the Genocide, a national American-Armenian memorial day, mentioning man’s inhumanity to man. Lewis’ signature was the most significant of sixty-nine signatures published. A two-page spread appeared simultaneously in the New York Times and Washington Post, financed by the Committee of the Turkish Associations.60. ↑ Richard G. Hovannisian. Remembrance and denial: The Case of the Armenian Genocide. - Wayne State University Press, 1998. - P. 227. - 328 p. - ISBN 081432777X, ISBN 9780814327777The Institute of Turkish Studies and its director. Heath Lowry, were instrumental in securing the signature of sixty-nine academics in Turkish studies, many of whom had been awarded grants by the institute, for an open letter published as an advertisement in the New York Times and the Washington Post, and read morethan once into the Congressional Record.61. ↑ quoted by Kenneth S. Stern. Holocaust Denial. Amer Jewish Committee, 1993. ISBN 0-87495-102-X. P. 86-87. «Academics have also been used to give a veneer of legitimacy to the denial of the Armenian genocide. Sixty-nine academics signed a New York Times ad in 1985, protesting a proposed day of remembrance for the victims of the Armenian genocide. According to Professor Peter Sourian, most of these academics “apparently benefited directly or indirectly from Turkish largess.” »62. ↑ January 2 The Psychological Satisfaction of Denials of the Holocaust or Other Genocides by Non-Extremists or Bigots, and Even by Known Scholars, by Israel Charny, «IDEA» journal, July 17, 2001, Vol.6, no.163. ↑ Israel Charny. A Passion for Life and Rige at the Wasting of Life / / Samuel Totten, Steven L. Jacobs. Pioneers of genocide studies. Transaction Publishers, 2002. ISBN 0-7658-0151-5, 9780765801517. P. 456-464. «The results were impressive in conveying that at least several of the scholars acknowledged that major massacres of the Armenians had occurred, so that in effect there was no doubt about the Armenian Genocide, although none of them agreed to me word genocide, and several acknowledged that there was a pattern of obfuscation and denial by me Turks. »64. ↑ Yair Auron. The banality of denial: Israel and the Armenian genocide.Transaction Publishers, 2004. ISBN 0-7658-0834-X, 9780765808349. P.21665. ↑ Lou Ann Matossian. Politics, scholarship, and the Armenian Genocide.Armenian Reporter. July 19, 200866. ↑ Şükrü Elekdağ. Soykırımı balonu nasıl patlar? Milliyet. 02/10/2000

  • GLAK

    Well, you’re a liar and a rat stinking, filthy Turks where is the evidence??

  • GLAK

    Once when you trash zaplotite Turks Armenians, Greeks, Asiireytsam, Kurds, Jews,Arabs and Greeks of Constantinople return, North Cyprus and Western Armenia.

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    And I advise you, if you want to know why the events of 1915 have the right to begenocide, prochitaayte:Ahmad, Feroz. The Young Turks. Oxford, 1969.Archives (Alexandria, VA: Chadwyck-Healey, 1994), 476 pp.Ahmad, Kamal Madhar. Kurdistan During the First World War (London: Saqi Books, 1994), 234 pp ..Akcam Taner, A Shameful act: The Armenian Genocide and the Question of Turkish Responsibility, Metropolitan Books, 2006Akcam Taner, Dialogue across an International Divide: Essays towards a Turkish-Armenian Dialogue, Zoryan Institute, Canada 2001
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    American Committee for Armenian and Syrian Relief. Armenia, the Word Spells Tragedy. New York: American Committee for Armenian and Syrian Relief, 1917?.48 pp. (Reprinted by JC & AL Fawcett (Astoria, NY) in 1990)
    American Committee for Armenian and Syrian Relief. The Cry of Millions, Exiled, Destitute, Dying. New York: American Committee for Armenian and Syrian Relief, 1916.
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    American Relief Administration. Bulletin, 1st series. Paris: np, Mar 8, 1918.Anassian, H. S. The Armenian Question and the Genocide of the Armenians in Turkey (A brief Bibliography of Russian Materials). La Verne, CA: American Armenian International College, 1983. 177 pp.
    Antreassian, Rev. Dikran. Escape to Musa Dagh or The Banishment of Zeitoun and Suedia’s Revolt (Paramus, NJ: Armenian Missionary Association of America, 1993), 74 pages.
    Apramian, J. The Georgetown Boys. Hamilton Ontario, CAN: The Printing House, 1983. NP pp.
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    Auron Yair, The Banality of Indifference. Zionism and the Armenian Genocide, USA, New Jersey, 2000
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    Banker, Marie Sarrafian. My Beloved Armenia. Chicago: Bible Institute Colportage Ass’n, 1936. 205 pp.Barrows, John Otis. In the Land of Ararat: A Sketch of the Life of Mrs. Elizabeth Freeman Barrows Ussher, Missionary to Turkey and a Martyr of the Great War.New York: Fleming H Revell Co, 1916. 184 pp.
    Barton, James Levy. Story of Near East Relief. New York: MacMillan Company, 1930. 479 pp.
    Bassiouni, M.C. Crimes Against Humanity in International Law. Boston, 1992.Berkes, N. The Development of Secularism in Turkey. Montreal, 1964.
    Beylerian, Arthur. Les Grandes Puissances L’Empire Ottoman et les Armeniens: dans les Archives Francaises, 1914-1918 (3 vols). Paris, France: Publications de la Sorbonne, 1983. 792 pp.
    Bierstadt, Edward Hale. The Great Betrayal; A Survey of the Near Eastern Problem. New York: Robert M. McBride and Co., 1924. 345 pp.
    British Documents on the Origins of the War 1889-1914, vol. IX: 1. Gooch and Temperley, eds. London, 1926.
    Bliss, Rev. Edwin Munsell. Turkey and the Armenian Atrocities. Edgewood Publishing Company, 1896. Reprinted by Meshag Publishing (Fresno, CA) in 1982. 574 pp.
    Bloxham Donald, The Great Game of Genocide, Oxford, 2005 Boghossian, Roupen. Historical Forgery: An International Crime (Boston, MA: Armenian Rights Council, 1994), 80 ppBryce, Viscount. The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire, 1915-1916.London, UK: Sir Joseph Causton and Sons, 1916. 684 pp. (Reprinted in 1972 by G. Doniguian and Sons (Beirut, Lebanon) and in 1990 by Michael Kane of New York City.
    Bryce, James. Transcaucasia and Ararat. London, 1896.
    Bryce, Viscount James et al. An Anthology of Historical Writings on the Armenian Massacres of 1915. Beirut, Lebanon: Hamaskain Armenian Cultural Association, 1971. 243 pp.
    Bryce James and Toynbee Arnold. The Treatment of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire 1915-1916, Introduction by Ara Sarafian, Gomidas Institute, Princeton new Jersey, 2000
    Bryson, Thomas A. American Diplomatic Relations with the Middle East, 1784-1975: A Survey. Metuchen, NJ: Scarecrow Press, Inc., 1977. 431 pp.
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    Buxton, Harold Jocelyn. Armenia and the Settlement. London: Armenian Bureau, 1919.
    Caraman, Elizabeth and William Lytton Payne. Daughter of the Euphrates. New York: Harper & Bros. Pub, 1939. 277 pp. (Reprinted by the Armenian Missionary Association in Paramus, NJ in 1979)
    Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. Violation of the Laws and Customs of War: Report of the Majority and Dissenting Reports of the American and Japanese Members of the Commission on Responsibilities at the Conference of Paris. Pamphlet No. 32. Oxford, 1919.
    Carzou, Jean-Marie. Un genocide exemplaire; Armenie, 1915. Paris: Flammarion, 1975. 252 pp.Chambers, Ada Pierce. In an Anatolian Valley. New York: Bouregy and Curl, 1955.
    Chambers, William Nesbitt. Yoljuluk: Random Thoughts on a Life in Imperial Turkey. London, England: Simpkin Marshall, Ltd., 1928. 125 pp. (Reprinted in 1988 by the Armenian Missionary Association of America (Paramus, NJ).
    Charny, Israel W. Genocide: A Critical Bibliographic Review. New York, NY: Facts on File Publications, 1988. 273 pp.
    Charny, Israel W. Genocide: A Critical Bibliographic Review, Volume 2. New York, NY: Facts on File, 1991. 432 pp.
    Charny, Israel W. (Ed). The Book of the International Conference on the Holocaust and Genocide, Book One: The Conference Program and Crisis. Tel Aviv, Israel: Institute of the International Conference on the Holocaust and Gen, 1983. 348 pp.
    Charny, Israel (ed). The Widening Circle of Genocide, Genocide: A Critical Bibliographic Review, Volume 3 (New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction Publishers, 1994), 375 pp.
    Charny, Israel W. (Ed). Toward the Understanding and Prevention of Genocide: Proceedings of the International Conference on the Holocaust and Genocide.Boulder: Westview Press, 1984. 396 pp.
    Churchill, W. The World Crisis. The Aftermath. London, 1929.
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    Cohen Rosemary H., The Survivor, Los Angeles, 2002
    Commission of the Churches on International Affairs. Armenia: The Continuing Tragedy. Geneva, Switzerland: World Council of Churches, 1984. 55 pp.
    Compton, Carl C. The Morning Cometh: 45 years with Anatolia College. New Rochelle, NY: Aristide D. Caratzas, 1986. 116 pp.Couzinos, Efthimios N. Twenty-Three Year in Asia Minor, 1899-1923. New York: Vantage Press, 1969. 175 pp.
    Crimes Against Humanity and Civilization, The Genocide of the Armenians, New York, 2004Daniel, Robert L. American Philanthropy in the Near East, 1820-1960. Athens, OH: Ohio University Press, 1970.
    Davidson, Khoren K. Odyssey of An Armenian of Zeitoun. New York, NY: Vantage Press, 1985. 257 pp.
    Davis, Leslie A. The Slaughterhouse Province: An American Diplomat’s Report on the Armenian Genocide, 1915-1917 (Edited by Susan K. Blair). New Rochelle, NY: Aristide D. Caratzas, Publisher, 1989. 216 pp.
    Davis, W.S. The Roots of the War. New York, 1918.
    Dedeyan, Gerard et al. Histoire des Armenians. Toulouse, France: Editions Privat, 1982. 701 pp.
    Deranian, Marderos. Hussenig: The Origin, History, and Destruction of an Armenian Town (Belmont, MA: Armenian Heritage Press, 1994), 200 pages.De Nogales, R. Four Years Beneath the Crescent. M. Lee, trans. New York, 1926.
    Documents on British Foreign Policy 1919-1939. First Series. W.L. Woodward and R.Butler, eds. London, 1952.
    Der Sarkiss, K. Journey to the Light. Yonkers, NY: Armenian Literary Society, 1970, 1978. 253 pp.
    Derogy, Jacques. Operation Nemesis: Les vengeurs armeniens. Fayard, Paris: Librarie Artheme Fayard, 1986. 320 pp.
    Derogy, Jacques. Resistance and Revenge: The Armenian Assassination of the Turkish Leaders Responsible for the 1915 Massacres and Deportations. New Brunswick, NJ: Transaction Publishers and Zoryan Institute, April 1990. 332 pp.
    Douglas, John Albert. Death’s Ride in Anatolia and Armenia. London: Faith Press, 1920.
    Dzeron, Manoog B. Village of Parchanj General History (1600-1937). Fresno, CA: Panorama West Books, 1984. 242 pp. (Reprint of 1938 edition published by Baikar Press of Boston, MA)
    Eby, Blanche Remington. At the Mercy of Turkish Brigands, a True Story; An Account of the Siege of Hadjin and Armenian Massacres. New Carlisle, Ohio: Bethel Publishing Co., 1922.
    Edib, H. The Turkish Ordeal. New York, 1928.
    Einstein, Lewis. Inside Constantinople. New York, NY: E.P. Dutton & Company, 1918. 291 pp.
    Elliott, Mabel Evelyn. Beginning Again at Ararat. New York, NY: Fleming H. Revell Company, 1924. 341 pp.
    Emin [Yalman], Ahmed. Turkey in the World War. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1930. 310 pp.
    Stop, or even lead??

  • GLAK

    Also, I advise you to read:Until 1917 the U.S. maintained a neutral position, and their policies do not threat the Ottoman Empire, which allowed them to keep a large number of consular officers in the Ottoman regions. Long-term contacts between Armenians and Americans associated with the missionary and commercial activities, as well as a significant number of fleeing the Ottoman Armenians in the United States, which led to the U.S. State Department was informed in detail about the events. The most important source is the U.S. reports and memoirs of Ambassador Henry Morgenthau. In their reports, Morgenthau has repeatedly reported on the systematic and universal exile and annihilation of the Armenians. In August 1916 changed Abram Elkur Morgenthau, whose reports indicate that the leadership of the empire in every way impeded the delivery of humanitarian assistance to starving to death Armenians. Numerous reports network consulates located in key cities of the Ottoman Empire, contain information about the deportations and killings of Armenians and Turkish officials testify about how it was planned by the destruction of [1]. On the systematic nature of the destruction of the Armenians showed American missionaries also [2].
    Rafael de Nogales Mendes (1879-1936), Venezuelan officer who served in the Ottoman army, and described the massacre in his book [3]
    1. ↑ Rouben Paul Adalian. American diplomatic correspondence in the age of mass murder: the Armenian Genocide in the US archives / / Jay Winter. America and the Armenian Genocide of 1915. - Cambridge University Press, 2003. - Vol.15. - 317 p. - (Studies in the social and cultural history of modern warfare). - ISBN 0521829585, ISBN 97805218295882. ↑ Suzanne E. Moranian. The Armenian Genocide and American missionary relief efforts / / Jay Winter. America and the Armenian Genocide of 1915. - Cambridge University Press, 2003. - Vol. 15. - 317 p. - (Studies in the social and cultural history of modern warfare). - ISBN 0521829585, ISBN 97805218295883. ↑ Rafael de Nogales. Cuatro años bajo la media luna (Madrid: Editora Internacional, 1924). Translated into German «Vier Jahre unter dem Halbmond: Erinnerungen aus dem Weltkriege» (Berlin: Verlag von Reimar Hobbing, 1925), English «Four Years Beneath the Crescent» (London: Sterndale Classics, 2003) 

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    Fein, Helen. Genocide: A Sociological Perspective (Newbury Park, CA: Sage Publications/International Sociological Association, 1993), 120 pages. 

    Fest, J.C. Hitler. Richard and Clara Winston, trans New York, 1975. 

    Filian, Rev. George H. Armenia and Her People. Hartford, CN: American Publishing Company, 1896. 376 pp. 

    From Kessab to Watertown: A Modern Saga, Edited by Pillibosin Helene, Watertown, Massachusetts, 1996 
    Gates, Frank Caleb. Not To Me Only. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 1940. 340 pp.  
    George, L. Memoirs of the Peace Conference, vol. 2. London, 1939. Germany, Turkey, and Armenia: A Selection of Documentary Evidence Relating to the Armenian Atrocities From German and Other Sources. London: J.J. Keliher & Co., 1917. 128 pp.  
    Gibbons, Helen Davenport. The Red Rugs of Tarsus. New York: Century Co, 1917. Gibbons, Herbert Adams. The Blackest Page of Modern History; Events in Armenia in 1915; The Facts and the Responsibilities. New York and London: G. P. Putnam’s Sons, 1916. 71 pp. Glockler, Henry W. Interned in Turkey, 1914-1918. Beirut: Sevan Press, 1969. 154 pp. 
    Gokalp, Z. Turkish Nationalism and Westem Civilization. N. Berkes, trans., ed. London, 1959. Gottlieb, W.W. Studies in Secret Diplomacy during the First World War. London, 1957. Grabill, Joseph L. Protestant Diplomacy and the Near East: Missionary Influence on American Policy, 1810-1927. Minneapolis: Univ. of Minnesota Press, 1971. 395 pp.  
    Grey, Viscount of Fallodon, Twenty-Five Years. 1892-1916, vol. 1 New York, 1925. Gurun, K. The Armenian File. The Myth of Innocence Exposed. New York, 1985. Gust, Wolfgang. Der Volkermord an den Armeniern: die Trgodie des altesten Christenvolkes der Welt (Munich: Carl Hanser, 1993), 335 pages. Hackworth,G.H. International Law, 8 vols. vol. 1. Washington, D.N., 1940-1944.  
    Harbord, James G. Conditions in the Near East: Report of the American Military Mission to Armenia. Washington: US Government Printing Office, 1920. 44 pp. Harland, Marion. Under the Flag of the Orient. Philadelphia: Historical Publishing, 1897. 446 pp. Harris, Rendel J. and Helen B. Harris. Letters From the Scenes of the Recent Massacres in Armenia. New York, NY: Fleming H. Revell Company, 1897. 254 pp. 
    Helmreich, P.C. From Paris to Sevres. Columbus, Ohio, 1974. Hepworth, George H. Through Armenia on Horseback. New York, NY: E. P. Dutton & Company, 1898. 355 pp. Herbert, A. Ben Kendim. A Record of Eastern Travel, 2nd. ed. London, 1924. Highgas, Dirouhi Kouymjian. Refugee Girl. Watertown, MA: Baikar Publications, 1985. 178 pp. Hill, C. W. The Road to En-Dor. London: John Lane the Bodley Head, 1922. Hodgetts, E.A. Brayley. Round About Armenia: The Record of a Journey across the Balkans through Turkey, the Caucasus and Persia in 1895. London, England: Sampson Low, Marston and Company, 1896. 296 pp. Hopkirk, Peter. Like Hidden Fire: The Plot to Bring Down the British Empire (New York, NY: Kodansha America, Inc., 1994), 431 pages. Horton, George. Recollections Grave and Gay: The Story of a Mediterranean Consul. Indianapolis: The Bobbs-Merill Company, 1927. 331 pp. Horton, George. The Blight of Asia. Indianapolis, IN: Bobbs-Merrill Company, 1926. 292 pp. (Reprinted by Michael Kane in NY) 
    The Imperial Ottoman Penal Code. J. Bucknill and H. Utidjian trans. Oxford, 1913. Ismail, K.A., The Memoirs of Ismail Kemal Bey. S. Story, ed. London, 1920. International Law: A Contemporary Perspective. R. Falk, F. Kratochwil, and S. Institut fur Armenische Fragen. The Armenian Genocide, Vols. 1, 2, and 8. Munich: Institut fur Armenische Fragen, 1987. 655 pp.  
    Joseph, John. Muslim-Christian Relations and Inter-Christian Rivalries in the Middle East. Albany: State Univ. of New York Press, 1983. 240 pp. Jungk, Peter Stephen. Franz Werfel: A Life in Prague, Vienna and Hollywood. New York, NY: Grove Weidenfeld, 1990. 318 pp. 

  • GLAK

    It is you and your filthy stories of the people falsifikatori. you like you’re spendingmillions of dollars annually, bribe the false historians, destroy the Armenian KulturaKultura and other indigenous peoples. You are your filthy Turkish nation yavlyaytescannibals on the body of the earth, and murderer of many nations, and imenno6Armenians, Greeks, Asiireeytsev, Yezidis, Kurdoa, the Alawites, etc.
    You do not seem strange that all these people predyavlyayut your filthy peopleclaim??
    The time will come and we go to court for us, too, will have its own Nuremberg, so you can not sleep. Even on the day of judgment we will invite your filthy tribe to court- bozhemu court. You and your children will burn in hell!

  • GLAK

    Here are some of your countrymen come more intelligent, probably the conscience began to play: Member of Parliament of Turkey: in 1915 against the Armenians was genocide committed 
    Member of Parliament of Turkey from the Kurdish faction only “Peace and Democracy” Altan Tan in his speech at the International Conference at the University of Artuklu qualified event in Mardin in 1915 in the Ottoman Empire as genocide, reports Radikal. 
    According to Turkish newspaper, a Kurdish MP, speaking of the Armenians living in Mardin, said that as a politician believes committed by the Turks in 1915 against the Armenians as genocide. Altan Tan said that yes, there are explanations, allegedly during the relocation of Armenians perished from disease, the other robber was killed and so on. ”I am speaking as someone who has a conscience. In what circumstances were these people killed, it does not matter. There are a consequence – the Armenian people was destroyed. 
    Proof of this is also a territory which we now possess, the demographic situation.While in the country with a population of 13 million people lived 1.2 million Armenians. That is, Armenians constituted 10% of the total population. Now the population is 75 million, but only 40 thousand of Armenians is the consequence, “- said the deputy. 
    Genocide is recognized by many countries of the civilized world, including the UN Security Council permanent members: Russia, France and the majority of U.S. states. As well as the Council of Europe, UN Commission for War Crimes, European Parliament, the World Council of Churches and the Vatican. Parliaments of several European countries have laws criminalizing denial of Armenian Genocide. 

  • GLAK

    Turk, I will give you the best of your word to your zemlaka expressed premer Minister Erdogan, but it suits you, too:
    Leading Turkish newspaper Hurriyet journalist Yilmaz Ozdil, known for his sharp criticism of the ruling party, “Justice and Development”, in an article published on December 21, called the Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan – “fool of God.”In analyzing the statement of the Turkish prime minister at the French bill criminalizing denial of Armenian Genocide – ‘Let France said what he had done in Algeria and Rwanda crimes, “Ozdil writes:” Today, Algeria and France are friendly countries. 17 players of the national team of Algeria are French citizens. And giving satisfied, and receiving, what do you care to Algeria, idiot Allah? you answer, why is it called Ayntap Gaziayntapom, Marash – Kahramanmaras, and Urfa – Şanlıurfa. who by force of arms seized these cities? Talking “we were subjected to genocide,” Armenians or implemented the massacre in these cities, the soldiers in the Turkish military uniform? You’re looking at the history of shame, forgetting the history of its own people? This is a real shame. Do not you invited me to his Nobel Prize winner Orhan Pamuk, and when he said aloud to the massacre of Armenians – banished for it out of the country? Did not you go to the appointed mayors of French cars? What kind of boycott, are you saying? “.

  • GLAK

    From the Vatican Secret ArchivesIn Rome, opened an exhibition of unique ancient and hitherto secret documents of the Vatican, which represent the first time the general public.Note that in the Vatican archives contain information on the Armenian Genocide.Keeper of the Vatican Secret Archives, Sergio Pagano Monsignor in an interview with Vatan Turkish news agency said that the exhibition Lux in Arcana in 2012, the Vatican will present the book with the documents and information about the Armenian Genocide.The Guardian noted that in 1896 the then Pope Leo 13 urged the Sultan to show compassion and stop the genocide committed by them. Pagano said that the documents and information about the Armenian Genocide of the Vatican Secret Archives will be published in book form. He gave several examples of it.
    Eyewitness account of Erzurum: “I saw how many children destroyed. My niece ran away from home with a 2-year-old child on his shoulders, but her shot, knocked to the ground. Two soldiers came to her and killed in front of the child. Saw the killing of the spiritual leader of our city. Gouged out his eyes, pulled his beard. Before killing him, the soldiers forced him to dance. ”
    Evidence Turkish soldier named Mustafa Suleiman: “We went to the Armenian village and killed everyone, without regard to sex and age. Those who came with us to the village of Kurds plundered the house of the Armenians. Many elderly Armenians, people with disabilities were hidden in a school that was at the center of the city, but we had ordered – we killed them. In the village Geliguzan were killed or burned 800 Armenians. Eyes gouged out his father Hovhannes, beard, nose and ears cut off. I have not killed a single child, even rescued two children. 3 days hid them in his tent, but once he went in and saw their bodies dismembered. “

  • GLAK

    Read more respected people in the world.
    Henri Vergne, Sharmetana father, Georges Clemenceau, Anatole France, JacquesJaures.

  • GLAK

    Read more respected people in the world.
    Henri Vergne, Sharmetana father, Georges Clemenceau, Anatole France, JacquesJaures, Ambassador Margentau.

  • GLAK

    Read more respected people in the world.
    Henri Vergne, Sharmetana father, Georges Clemenceau, Anatole France, JacquesJaures, Ambassador Margentau.

  • GLAK

    In addition to world-renowned sources, namely: Henry Vernier, Sharmetana father, Georges Clemenceau, Anatole France, Jacques Jaures, Ambassador Morgenthau,Lepsius, Lemkin, Franklin Roosevelt and Dr. Czerny.

    Here is another source, study them:Karpat, K. Ottoman Population 1830-1914. Madison, WI, 1985. Karsh, Yousuf. In Search of Greatness. New York, NY: Alfred A. Knopf, 1962. 210 pp.  
    Kayaloff, Jacques. The Fall of Baku. Bergenfield, NJ: Michael Barour Publications, 1976. 35 pp.  
    Kazemzadeh, F. The Struggle for Transcaucasia (1917-1922). New York, 1951.  
    Kinross, Lord. The Ottoman Centuries. New York, 1977. Kerr, Stanley Elphinstone. The Lions of Marash: Personal Experiences with American Near East Relief, 1919-1922. New York, NY: State University of New York, 1973. 318 pp. 
    King, William Henry. Turkish Atrocities in Asia Minor. Washington, D.C.: G.P.O., 1922. Kinross, Lord. Within the Taurus. New York, NY: William Morrow & Co., 1955. 192 pp. Kloian, Richard D. The Armenian Genocide-First 20th Century Holocaust. Berkeley, CA: Anto Printing, 1980. 304 pp. Kloian, Richard D. The Armenian Genocide: News Accounts From the American Press 1915-1922. Berkeley, CA: Anto Printing, 1985. 388 pp. Knapp, Grace H. The Mission at Van: In Turkey in War Time. New York: Prospect Press, 1915. Knapp, Grace H. The Tragedy of Bitlis, Being Mainly the Narratives of Grisell M. Mclaren and Myrtle O. Shane. New York, Chicago, etc: Fleming H. Revell Co., 1919. 160 pp. 
    Kucuk, Yalcin. Turkiye uzerine tezler 1908-1978 (Theses regarding Turkey 1908-1978). Istanbul/Vol 2: Tekin, 1979. 713 pp. Kunzler, Jakob. Dreissig Jahre Dienst am Orient [Thirty Years Service in the Orient]. Basel: Birkhauser Verlag, 1933, 1973. 55 pp. Kunzler, Jakob. Im Lande des Blutes und der Tranen; Erlebnisse in Mesopotamien wahrend des Weltkrieges [In the Land of Blood and Tears; Experiences in Mesopotamia During the World War]. Potsdam: Tempelverlag, 1921. Kuper, Leo. Genocide: Its Political Use in the Twentieth Century. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1981. 255 pp. Kuper, Leo,. The Prevention of Genocide. New Haven, Connecticut, 1985. Lambert, Rose. Hadjin and the Armenian Massacres. New York, NY: Fleming H. Revell Company, 1911. 106 pp. Lang, David Marshall. The Armenians: A People in Exile. London, England: George Allen & Unwin, 1982. 203 pp. Lanne, Peter. Armenia: The First Genocide of the XX Century. Munich, Germany: Institute for Armenian Studies, 1977. 215 pp. League of Nations, Permanent Court of International Justice, Advisory Committee of Jurists. Proces-Verbaux of the Proceedings of the Committee June 16-July 24. Geneva,1920. League of Nations. Armenian and Russian Refugees; Conference of Government Representatives to Consider Proposals for the Settlement of Refugees in Overseas Countries. Geneva: Imprimerie Kundig, 1927. League of Nations: Assembly: Fifth Committee. Armenian and Russian Refugee Problems; Report… Geneva: np, 1926. League of Nations: Assembly: Fifth Committee. Deportation of Women and Children in Turkey, Asia Minor and the Neighboring Territories; Report… Geneva: np, 1921, 1922. League of Nations: Assembly: Fifth Committee. Protection of Women and Children in the Near East; Report… Geneva: np, 1923-1927. League of Nations: Assembly: Fifth Committee. Settlement of Armenian Refugees; Report… Geneva: Imprimerie Kundig, 1926. League of Nations: Assembly: Fifth Committee. Transfer of Armenian Refugees to the Caucasus and Creation of an Armenian National Home in That Region; Report… Geneva: np, 1924. League of Nations: Assembly: Fifth Committee. Work of the High Commission for Refugees on Behalf of Near East Refugees; Report… Geneva: Imprimerie Jent, 1923. League of Nations: Assembly: Sixth Committee. Armenia; Report… Geneva: np, 1921, 1922. League of Nations: Assembly: Sixth Committee. Russian, Armenian, Assyrian, Assyro-Chaldean and Turkish Refugees; Report… Geneva: np, 1930-1935. League of Nations: Assembly: Sixth Committee. Plan for the Establishment of Armenian Refugees in the Republic of Erivan; Report… Geneva: Imprimerie Jent, 1928. League of Nations: Assembly: Sixth Committee. Settlement of Armenian Refugees in the Erivan Republic; Report… Geneva: Imprimerie Jent, 1929. League of Nations: Commission for the Protection of Women and Children in the Near East. Report… Geneva: np, 1923-1929. League of Nations: Commission of Enquiry on the Deportation of Women and Children in Turkey and Adjacent Countries. Work of the Commission… Geneva: np, 1921. League of Nations: Council. Armenian Refugee Settlement Commission; Report… Geneva: np, 1926. League of Nations: Council. Protection of Minorities in Turkey. London: np, 1920. League of Nations: Council. Return to Turkish Armenian Refugees in Greece of their Deposits in Foreign Banks at Smyrna and Their Property Left in Asia Minor (the Essayan Petition). Geneva: np, 1925. League of Nations: Council. Settlement of Armenian Refugees; Report… Geneva: np, 1923-1927. League of Nations: Council. Commission for the Protection of Women and Children in the Near East; Report… Geneva: np, 1923, 1925. League of Nations: High Commissioner for Refugees (1921-1930). Armenian and Russian Refugees. Geneva: np, 1926. League of Nations: High Commissioner for Refugees (1921-1930). Armenian Refugees; Report by Dr. Fridtiof Nansen… Geneva: np, 1924. League of Nations: High Commissioner for Refugees (1921-1930). Conference on Russian and Armenian Refugee Questions; Report… Geneva: Imprimerie Kundig, 1926. League of Nations: High Commissioner for Refugees (1921-1930). Identity Certificate for Armenian Refugees; Report… Geneva: np, 1924. League of Nations: High Commissioner for Refugees (1921-1930). Refugee Questions..Transfer of the Work for Russian and Armenian Refugees to the International Labour Organisation. Geneva: np, 1924. League of Nations: High Commissioner for Refugees (1921-1930). Report on the Settlement of Armenian Refugees in Syria and in Lebanon. Geneva: np, 1928. League of Nations: High Commissioner for Refugees (1921-1930). Russian and Armenian Refugees; Report… Geneva: Imprimerie Kundig, 1927. League of Nations: High Commissioner for Refugees (1921-1930). Russian, Armenian, Assyrian, Assyro-Chaldean and Turkish Refugees; Report… Geneva: Imprimerie Kundig, 1928, 1929. Lepsius, Johannes. Archives du genocide des Armeniens: recueil de documents diplomatiques allemands, extraits de Deutschland und Armenien (1914-1918) [Archives of the Armenian Genocide: .. German Diplomatic Documents, extracts from Deutschland und Armenien (1914-1918). Paris: Fayard, 1986. 306 pp. Lepsius, Johannes. Bericht uber die Lage des armenischen Volkes in der Turkei [Report on the Situation of the Armenian People in Turkey]. Potsdam: Tempelverlag, 1916. 303 pp. Lepsius, Johannes. Der Todesgang des armenischen Volkes: Bericht uber das Schicksal des armenischen Volkes in der Turkei wahrend des Weltkrieges [The Death of the Armenian People: Report on the Fate of the Armenian People in Turkey during the World War]. Potsdam: Tempelverlag, 1919. 314 pp. Lepsius, Johannes. Deutschland und Armenien, 1914-1918: Sammlung diplomatischer aktenstucke [Germany and Armenia, 1914-1918: A Collection of Diplomatic Documents]. Potsdam: Tempelverlag, 1919. 541 pp. Lepsius, Johannes. Le rapport secret du Dr. Johannes Lepsius, president de la Deutsche Orient mission et de la Societe germano-armenienne, sur les massacres d’Armenie. Paris: Payot et cie., 1918/19/66/87. 332 pp. Libaridian, Gerard (ed). A Crime of Silence: The Armenian Genocide. London: Zed Books Ltd, 1985. 249 pp. Liman von Sanders, Otto. Five Years in Turkey. Annapolis, MD: United States Naval Institute, 1927. Lovejoy, Esther Pohl. Certain Samaritans. New York: Macmillan Company, 1927. 302 pp. (Reprited in 1933 by the same publisher) Looking Backward, Moving Forward: Confronting the Armenian Genocide, Ed. Hovhannisian Richard G., Transaction Publishers, 2003 Lynch, H.F.B. Armenia: Travels and Studies, Vol. I. First reprinted by Khayat Book & Publishing Company, 1965. 470 pp. (Reprinted by Armenian Prelacy, New York, NY, 1990 which is a reprint of the 1901 edition published in London) Lynch, H.F.B. Armenia: Travels and Studies, Vol. II. First reprinted by Khayat Book & Publishing Company, 1965. 512 pp. (Reprint by Armenian Prelacy, New York, NY, 1990 which is a reprint of the 1901 edition published in London) Mandelstam, Andre N. La Societe des Nations et les Puissances Devant Le Probleme Armenien. Paris, France: Librarie de la Cour D’Appel et de L’Ordre des Avocats, 1926.  
    Marriott, J.A.R. The Eastern Question: An Historical Study in European Diplomacy. London: Oxford University Press, 1930. 602 pp. Martin, Edwin W. The Hubbards of Sivas: A Chronicle of Love and Faith. Santa Barbara, CA: Fithian Press, 1991. 318 pp. Martin, Ramela. Out of Darkness. Cambridge, MA: Zoryan Inst. for Contemporary Armenian Research and Documentation, 1989. 220 pp. Mazian, Florence. Why Genocide? The Armenian and Jewish Experiences in Perspective. Ames, IA: Iowa State University Press, 1990. 291 pp. McNeill, William H. Arnold J. Toynbee: A Life. New York, NY: Oxford University Press, 1989. 346 pp. Mears, E.G. Modern Turkey: A Politico-Economic Interpretation 1908-1923 Inclusive.New York, 1924.  

  • JakeThreefeathers

    A very strange tribe these Frenchmen. First they declare Jerry Lewis and Mickey Rourke as French national treasures, and now, they tell us Armenian dogma is God’s infallible word that cannot be disputed. Where’s Eddie Constantine and Lemme Caution when we need them?

    What’s next for these French troglodytes? Will they reinstitute the flat-earth dogma and criminalize its refutation. Will they give the sun a shove so that it can once again start revolving around the earth as the Vatican once claimed it did and killed people for daring to question their cockamamie, Neanderthal doctrines? Will the French bring back Torquemada and the Inquisition?

    So many questions, so few answers. How is this newly proposed law to be implemented? At ports of entrance, will tourists be required to sign statements swearing allegiance to the verity of an “Armenian genocide”? Will the French post policemen at the Eiffel Tower and the Louvre for the purpose of asking Chinese visitors if they accept or reject the Armenian scam of the lucrative genocide cottage industry? 

    And what of ignorance? Can a person in France go to prison for not knowing Armenians from Albanians from Arabians from Andorians? Who is to be in charge of implementing this new law, Charlie Aznavour? Sylvie  Vartan? Inspector Clauseau? Mickey Mouse?

    And can I be arrested in France for saying that not all Armenian women have mustaches and not all Armenian women market their homemade porn movies as did Kim Kardashian? 

    Zut alors et sacre bleu! Strange people these French.

  • GLAK

    You better look here at this vile pornography, removed your nation is one of theseries: Massacres of Armenians and Greeks, 6-7 September 1955 in Turkey.Actors: The Police, Muslim and Arab women participated in the pogrom of 1955 in Turkey, as a result almost all Orthodox Greeks fled Turkey.The pogrom and lynching of the Greek and Armenian minority in Istanbul.

  • GLAK

    This is also the face of your nasty parody:

    In Turkey, uncovered another hideous case. Little children from 3 years, periodically raped grandfather, uncle, uncle and friend.
    According to Haberturk, this shameful story became known after testing DNA testing 55-year-old janitor at a school in Istanbul, who was arrested on charges of raping an 8-year-old boy. Examination of DNA samples found three others, noneof whom belonged to the school janitor.
    During this process, woke up the conscience of the boy’s mother, and she told law enforcement agencies, that the cleaner’s fault. According to the indicators of the mother, her child, since three years, raped his grandfather, uncle and friend of my uncle.
    Who was 10 months in custody cleaner was released, after which a criminal case against his grandfather, uncle and friend of the boy’s uncle. A 8-year-old boy sentto an orphanage.

  • GLAK

    This is also vasho filthy person nit read:
    Turkish judge described how during the pogroms in Marash grandmother put outthe eye with a screwdriver

    December 28, 2011 | 00:04
    During one of the shows judges CNNturk stories that led investigation into the riotsin 1978 in Marash, plunged the audience into shock.
    Connects to a live judge Karim Gunay said one of the episodes of riots, when allmembers of the Alawite family ran away from home, leaving a 90-year-oldgrandmother. Nationalists entered the house and saw the 90-year-old woman withone eye. ”They put out a screwdriver to her other hand. Seeing that she is notdead, carried her into the yard and stuck his head in a hole, then moved her car, “- said a Turkish judge.
    In December 1978 in Marash Turkish nationalists have committed murder Alawiteand seized their property. According to official figures, killed around 150 people, according to unofficial - 500.

  • GLAK

    That is also the Turkish pornography:
    In Turkey on suspicion of raping a goat arrested 33-year-old IGAccording to Turkish newspaper Milliyet, the incident occurred in the village of Icmeler area of ​​Marmaris. Mistress-year-old Fatima caught zoophyte goats at the time of the crime and called the police.
    Arriving on the scene, police arrested IGDuring questioning, a 33-year-old zoophyte said that when he sees the animal, it can not control himself. Probably among the victims of the offender, there are other animals. & # entry7295692***31 year old Turk, MS went into the hen house and raped a chickenThe owner heard the cry of a chicken coop chicken coop and ran, and overtook MS raped one of his chickens.rapist saw the owner wanted a quick “get together” and get away, but the owner of chickens with the neighbors he was caught and taken to the police.The police immediately released because the offender in Turets. law is no law prohibiting rape animals!***
    In the Turkish city of Adana 36-year-old mother of two WB forced a classmate of his son enter her into a sexual relationship.
    As the Turkish Haberturk, 15-year-old classmate of one of the sons, William B., who lives in the Toros Adana, stayed the night at the house of a woman. At night, the 36-year-old woman went to bed, boy, forced him to enter with her into sexual intercourse, and then forced to live with it.
    Parents of a teenager, seeing that her son is no more than a day, filed a complaint with the police. Police found the woman to force the boy to share her bed. After that, the parents filed immediately against the nasilnitsy two lawsuits.
    In court, the young man confessed that his mother was forced to enter a classmate with her to sexual contact, and then went with him to the hospital to have an abortion.***And this is from the Koran:
    Turk – commentary of the Quran, the Turks were presented as “enemies of humanity and the beasts,” “race, which became the scourge of humanity” in some verses, belonging, according to legend, written by Mohammed, said: “As long as we do not fight against narrow-eyed, red-faced, simous Turks, whose face resembles a flat shield, the day of a fair trial will not come. “* Offensive for Turkish expressions found in almost all the basic works of Islam. Here are some examples: “The country is home to the Turks and profanity accusations. Turk is a creature with sharp claws, with canine teeth, with a camel’s chin, covered with a wool body. When he eats, his teeth like a knock knock your teeth a mule or a horse”***The world famous ancient writer, humanist, scholar and philosopher Erasmus Roterdamsky, in the XV century, giving a vivid characteristics different nations, has been very stingy with regard to the characteristics turkov, spending is just one, but capacious word, writing: “But the Turks. Turks .. just barbarians. “

  • JakeThreefeathers

    Just to avoid misunderstanding and ambiguity, can we find out if this proposed French law, imposed by Armenian extortion artists, contains a provision for retroactivity? Can Chief Inspector Jacques Clauseau arrest President Shimon Peres of Israel?

    In April 2001, Mr. Peres, as foreign minister, made this statement : “The Armenian allegations are meaningless.We reject attempts to create a similarity between the Holocaust and the Armenian allegations. Nothing similar to the Holocaust occurred. It is a tragedy what the Armenians went through but not a genocide.”

  • Dark131313

     Davutoglu writes his doctrine in his book  Strategic Depth. These names are irrelavant if one wants to understand current Turkish foreign policy.

  • Dark131313

    Are you blind? There are many highly respected academicians who consider it a tragedy but not a genocide. You are in a confirmation bias.

  • Dark131313

    These scientist are right to be afraid of saying it was not a genocide. Remember the armenian terrorist organization ASALA which had assasinated many Turkish politicians and pro-Turkish scientists. 

  • Dark131313

     Bernard Levis is the authority on  ME history and politics. No argument. 

  • Dark131313

    France and Russia support Armenian allegations because they were the ones who armed Armenian gangs which slaughtered 500.000 Muslims and 50000 Jews and started all these events.
    Germany supports because they do not want to be the only commiter of a genocide at Holocaust scale
    Armenia is utterly living in stoneage and landlocked and without hopes of development so their only hope is reperations.
    U.S basically can pass any bill if you pay enough to lobbyist.
    Israel traditionally is against Armenian claims. First due to the fact that armenians and greeks slaughtered them as well, and second they do not want to share their image of genocide victims.
    Many 3rd party countries such as Sweden, Denmark passed such bills in the past, in a similarly unserious manner to French parliament (French passed this with less than 10% attendance in their  parliament)

  • Dark131313

    This article is so unfounded and ignorant.  The author apparently does not know what 301 is. That’s really funny to draw a relation between this armenian allegations and 301. So, irrelevant and pure stupid.

    Quote from the article “Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has even gone so far to accuse France of having committed genocide in colonial Algeria and threatened further”
    Gone so far? French war crimes are well documented and were commited in front of cameras by French soldiers. Even youtube is full of documentaries if you procrastinate to find proper scientific work and get informed.

    Your Harvard Professor of Armenian Studies James Russell is basically bullshitting. In Turkey, no body denies what had happened in 1915. Turkish argument is simple: that does not qualify to be a genocide, because it was NEITHER A STATE POLICY NOR STATE ACTION.  1915 events were a civil reaction to what armenians did to Muslim women and children while muslim men were fighting WWI kilometers away home. There are many evidences that Ottoman Empire did her best to prevent the events.  I know you lazy author will never listen to Turkish arguments nor will you take a look at counter evidence. But at least watch:

    Second, this is not a cornerstone of Turkish culture. It is not in Turkish daily agenda or life. But one can confidently say and observe that ALLEGATIONS OF GENOCIDE IS A CORNERSTONE OF ARMENIAN CULTURE AND IDENTITY.

    Quote from the article
    “Russell further believes that the French legislation represents an important and long overdue reality check”. Reality Check? sorry but which one of those who voted for it in French parliament did a reality check? Or which one is qualified to do it? 

    So Russel says “One has to encourage a change in Turkish civil values … ” This is basically blah blah. Look at facts Mr. Russel! Encourage Armenians for a realty check. 

  • Jake Threefeathers

    Reparations? Apologies? Nuts!

    The incredible delusions of these Armenians boggle the mind. If they are waiting for an apology, they will have to wait until the snowy season arrives in hell. 

    Do these obsessed and deviated sociopaths have any inkling of what the Turkish people think of their progenitors? Turkish people think of Ottoman Armenians as rats and snakes and backstabbers who committed treason en masse and who collaborated with invading enemy armies during a life and death struggle of the Ottoman Turkish nation. Those who commit high treason would be seen as rats and snakes by any nation worth its salt. For the love of Jesus H. Christmas, whoever heard of apologizing to rats and snakes?

    If the Armenians of the U.S. had committed half the crimes that the Ottoman Armenians had committed in 1915 and in the 50 years leading to 1915, there would be no American Armenian diaspora to speak of, because the American people would see to it that every single one of these treasonous Armenians would get his comeuppance. 

    Reparations Kim Kardashian’s big derriere and Cher Sarkissian’s pre-surgery big nose!!!

  • JakeThreefeathers

    It is difficult to understand the sociopathy of these delusional and horridly deceitful Armenian zealots. These “eternal victims” have built a lucrative cottage industry of decrying genocide and “genocide denial.” 

    The slick Armenian flimflam artists constantly try to liken their outlandishly exaggerated tales of victimhood to the Jewish Holocaust. But at the same time, these same Armenian fraud meisters up and honor the world’s number one Holocaust denier, Pres. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, who also advocates wiping Israel off the map. Go figure.

     In 2007, Yerevan State University bestowed an honorary doctorate to Ahmadinejad and gave him a gold medal to boot. How do you say unmitigated chutzpah in Armenian?I guess to try to understand this slippery tribe of Armenians we must turn to one of their own, John Roy Carlson, nee Arthur Derounian :”Wholly opportunistic, Dashnaks have been variously pro-Nazi, pro-Russia, pro-Soviet Armenia, pro-Arab, pro-Jewish, as well as anti-Jewish, anti-Zionist, anti-Communist and Anti-Soviet – whichever was expedient.”John Roy Carlson (Arthur Derounian), Cairo to Damascus, Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1951, P.438
    [1] John Roy Carlson (Arthur Derounian), Cairo to Damascus
    Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1951, p. 438.John Roy Carlson (Arthur Derounian), Cairo to DamascusAlfred A. Knopf, New York, 1951, p. 438.

  • GLAK

    Dukes of mind to date, there are self-sustaining French, English, German and Russian archives. Of course, the Turks could destroy incriminating documents in its archives and try to find the absurd excuse of their country’s politics in the late XIX – early XX centuries. But clean up all the archives of the world can not the Turks. And available in other countries of documentary material clearly confirms the fact of Genocide.
     Also read the world famous French imenamy – Clemenceau, Jaures, Anatole France, Romain Rolland, whose remarks in defense of the Armenians – a self-sufficient evidentiary material which denounces the Turkish policy of genocide.(Report of the newspaper “Times”)
    I got a message on the complete extermination of the Armenians in Adrianople.October 10 Turkish police arrested 45 residents of Adrianople – the Armenians, who took Bulgarian citizenship. All the detainees were sent to Constantinople, and even in Asia Minor, except for 10 people who managed to escape and find refuge in the Bulgarian Mission Street Feather. The intervention of the Bulgarian government has enabled these persons to return freely to Karaagach. As for the fate of the remaining thirty-five Armenians, Port finished with ignorance.Shortly after this incident, all the Armenians in Adrianople, numbering about 1,600 people were arrested, a man once sent to Asia Minor, and the women and children were detained for two days in jail, being subject to serious attacks from jailers. Some of them were subsequently planted in sailing boats to ferry to Asia Minor. Two boats went to the bottom in the area Rodosto, and most of the former on board drowned. Part of the exiled family was sold for a ridiculously low price, mainly Jews. A delegation from Karaagacha went to Sofia in order to secure the intervention of the government, but received no reply to his petition. Memorandum addressed to the Bulgarian Government That another delegation, gives a complete picture of the suffering experienced by the Armenians in Asia Minor, prisoners in the hands of Turkish authorities.The document is given a list of 29 areas in which the entire Armenian population, amounting to 835 000 people were either killed or expelled, or force directed to the Muslim faith. One priest was burnt alive, five – were hanged or otherwise killed and 10 arrested.”The Times” 21. XII 1915.

  • GLAK

     October 5, 1915, at the height of the deportations and mass killings of Armenians in Turkey, Johannes Lepsius in his press conference in the German Reichstag, the Kaiser’s government accused the connivance of the political gang Talaat Enver.For non-interference in “internal” affairs of the Union of Turkey, when she committed a crime against humanity, once and for all Lepsius denounced the government Bethmann-Hollweg expression “slave ports.”
    French intelligence from the beginning possessed a completely accurate transcript closing speech of the main leader of Young Turks, they delivered 14 September 1910 at a secret congress of “Ittihad” in Thessaloniki. This speech was devoted exclusively to being prepared for destruction “cursed” Christian nation. ”When the time comes, we will destroy all the Armenians of the empire. They must be destroyed completely, so that no trace … We get a” living space “, which they say our real friends, the Germans, and the cost of this operation will be paid by the Armenians” (G. E.Guarch. Armenian will. MA: Uni Press, 2010, s.367).As you can see, one of the reasons for Turkey’s entry into World War I on the side of Germany (12.11.1914) was to implement this particular plan.
    Expressed by the great German Hegel, who saw in the nude, zryashnom, skeptical denial beaten way to refute and negate the comprehended content. In our case there was no genocide – and that’s enough. ”Skepticism, which ends with an abstraction of” nothing “or void, can not move on from the last, but should not be expected to be presented if it is something new and that it was so he could plunge it into the same abyss of emptiness.” This behavior is vulgar skepticism, Hegel explained by fear of the truth.
    Genocide – the terrible truth of 1915. Hence the denial of crimes against humanity by the Turkish government. For fear of vulgar skepticism of truth is not able to “find some other truth except the truth only of vanity – always be smarter than any of its own or someone else’s thoughts.”Filled the proscenium forgers of historical truth always know how to dissolve any sensible idea and instead find all content only his skinny “me.” And as they turn the knowledge of historical truth in the trick, then, according to Hegel, truth itself is laugh at this trick. So it was time to announce them just buffoons.There is no doubt that the abstract the question of deportation altogether worthless. Deportation of Armenians by the Young Turks and the Jews by the Nazis are not comparable with any other deportation. Both are pursuing the same goal – to destroy an entire people. In one case, disagreeable people were killed in a convenient way, in another – at the end. Therefore, one who compares the two deportation to any other, “either fooling himself or trying to deceive his fellow man” (Franklin Roosevelt).

  • GLAK

    May 24, 1915 the Allies issued a joint official statement in which the attempt to complete annihilation of the Armenians was classified as “crimes of Turkey against humanity and civilization” (Neue Zuricher Zeitung, 25.05.1915). In March 1919, according to the Turkish historian Taner Akcam, in Turkey at the trial of war criminals the public prosecutor outlined the attempt to destroy an entire people a clear expression of a “crime against humanity.”
    December 13, 1918 Interior Minister Mustafa Arif, made a statement that sheds light on the initiative of the Turkish parliament to bring to justice the major war criminals. For Turkey, it is time to liberation from the yoke of a totalitarian gang unheard-of Enver Talat. ”Unfortunately, during the war, our leaders, covered by the spirit of a certain gang of bandits have carried out the law of deportation in a manner that exceeded the most bloodthirsty bandits methods. They decided to destroy the Armenians, and that they certainly could” (quoted in: Rolf Hosfeld. Operation Nemesis, S.285). The public prosecutor Mustafa Naseem said at the opening of proceedings against the leaders of the gang of Young Turks: “So, what can be expected from us, there is justice in the name of universal human rights. Innocent victims rise again” (S.292). In addition to the words Nazim strictly legal aspects of the motif also contains the sacralization of victims of the genocide.Armenians are the first to adopt Christianity as state religion, and no other Christian people can not count themselves as martyrs for.

    RMTaner Akcam (historian): Menteshe Khalil, who was in the Young Turks as Minister of Foreign Affairs and Chairman of the National Assembly, in a letter written in Malta, said that, if expelled from the country of the Armenians and Greeks, they would not have been able to establish a state. The same, but much more clearly expressed in 1920. in the National Assembly of Ankara, Hasan Fehmi. ”Before you make a deportation, we knew that we would be called murderers,” – he says, and asks: “Why we took the risk to be called murderers?” Asks and answers himself to his question: “We had to do it for the welfare of our beloved homeland. “The Turkish Republic was established as a result of the Armenian Genocide of 1915. Glory to the founders of the Republic of Turkey – an integral part of our national identity. Criticism or charges against them are similar to self-blame, and it is very difficult. But among the founders of the Republic of Turkey, there are people who participated in the genocide of 1915. or knowledgeable about it, and we find it difficult to talk about it, including why.According to the official Ottoman figures 1919., Destroyed 800,000 Armenians. It is easy to say, “were killed 800,000 Armenians,” and it is clear that the State is responsible for killing so many people. Let’s consider this response in more detail: let’s 800,000 people have died from “starvation, adverse conditions, for unknown reasons,” etc. Well, in the same years 1916,1917,1918. Ottoman government deported more than half a million Muslims without any problems. As a state evicted without any problems and a half million Muslims, could not prevent the massacre of almost one million Armenians?You know, we have an official lie: they say that “the Armenians have caused us to strike from behind, so we brought them out of the battle area and moved to more secure places, so they were not at war with us.” However, it is important to note that the Armenians were deported from all parts of Anatolia – from Ankara, Bursa, Kutahya, Amasya, Tokat, Samsun, Edirne, Tekirdag. See where those chased from the Armenian vilayets – in the deserts of Syria and Iraq. And on the Ottoman documents, Syria and Iraq have been declared areas of military operations.Armenians were evicted from the center of Anatolia, the safest vilayets, where there were no incidents, and sent directly to the battlefield, the war against the British. Is this not strange?The sentence “let’s leave that question to historians” have had enough. The Turkish Foreign Ministry and our diplomats, it is not clear why historians have become the largest in the world. And after all that you say “leave the matter to historians.” That is, leave to historians only when they say what you want.Conversely, do not give a talk to the historians who express different from your point of view. This is absolutely a political issue, and it is necessary that political leaders sat down and decided it.Turkey can not live by hiding the crime. It’s a shame Turkey. With this disgrace, Turkey can not join the European Union can not take place in the modern world.She simply does not allow. Today we call this century the century, when asking for forgiveness. Turkey was like a cauldron, MFA – on the cover, barely covering the Turkey. Today, the boiler explodes: Turkey is no longer possible to keep isolated from the outside world. The boiler cracks everywhere he went.
    Selim Döring (historian): They say, “let the events of 1915. historians have judged. “ But asked whether they historians? No. In the Turkish authorities are historians who are called “team A”. When it says “leave the issue to historians,” they meant.Architects of the Republic of Turkey – not thousands. There are several hundred, all of them during the deportation of Armenians in 1915. occupy a particular position.They either knew about these events, either directly participated in them. By and large, these are the same people. They say ‘deportation, massacres, genocide, etc. committed the Young Turks. “ Very good, Who are these Young Turks? All the founders of the republic were the Young Turks.
    Halil Berktay (historian): The question of state or parastatal Turkey’s position is rather complicated. In 1915-1930gg. Everybody knew about the massacres.Therefore, when we study the historiography of this period have never come across the phrase “this was not, it’s a lie.” The reason is that these events were still fresh in the minds of generations, and everyone knew what really happened.There were also people who are proud of, saying, “if we are not killed, it would have killed them.” In 1926. in the Los Angeles Examiner newspaper was printed an interview with Ataturk. At the time, had already completed the trial of some members of the Young Turk Party. Answering a reporter’s question, Mustafa Kemal said: “These people, whom we now judge, are the authors of the terrible violence and massacres committed against the Christian population of the Ottoman Empire.”
    Aisha Hyur (analyst-writer): According to the registrations of 1914., In the Ottoman Empire was in 2538 churches, 451 Monastery, and 2,000 schools belonging to the Armenian community. After the deportation of the first thing settled in Armenian towns and villages of the Muslims was the transformation of central and beautiful churches into mosques. The rest of the church was used as warehouses, boiler rooms, etc. The representative of the nationalist wing of Parliament Reza Noor, in a letter to the commander of the Eastern Front Kazim Karabekir (May 25, 1921.) Said: “If we can wipe out the traces of the city of Ani, it will be a great service to Turkey” . It was the capital of a medieval Armenian kingdom. Karabekir in his memoirs, wrote that Reza Nur refused, because the ruins of Ani occupied the same territory as the walls of Istanbul, and to do such work was not easy.Young Turk Party, carrying out the deportation of 1915., Made his accomplices as the masses, and most of the political, administrative and military cadres of the Ottoman state. That is, It was a collective crime. The ideology of the Young Turks came to the present day. It is this continuity, which we may call complicity, despite the fact that it took more than 90 years, makes it impossible to identify the deportation of Armenians in 1915. (Which can be called genocide).

  • GLAK

    Times Higher Education: the Turkish Foreign Ministry captivates scientists and pays for the denial of the Armenian GenocideTimes Higher Education: the Turkish Foreign Ministry captivates scientists and pays for the denial of the Armenian GenocideThe British edition of the Times Higher Education published an article on the topic of the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire in 1915. and with respect to this issue in Turkey. The material is quite remarkable is entitled: “Can we really get to know the truth about the Armenian Genocide?”
    “In 2007. in Turkey, editor of “Agos” Hrant Dink was killed because he was for many years criticized the country’s policy of genocide denial. Up against the murder of Dink, sued for “criticism of the Turks.” For the same reason, a lawsuit was filed against the Nobel Prize winner, Turkish writer Orhan Pamuk. A number of scholars argues that those who deny the Armenian Genocide, simply bribed the Turkish Foreign Ministry, “- says the publication.
    For example, a teacher at Clark University (Clark University, Worcester, Massachusetts, USA), Taner Akcam at a conference in Bucharest, dedicated to the Armenian Genocide, said in Istanbul, while maintaining confidentiality, it was informed that the scientists who are ready to deny the Armenian Genocide, there were paid huge sums.
    “If someone is working on the problem of the Armenian Genocide, and uses this term, it may immediately lose his job. This is the reason that many scientists do not use this term. If I wanted to work in Turkey, it was unable to find any work in Turkish universities. No one can take me to work because they then immediately begin to terrorize the government “- said Akcam.
    According to him, if Turkey opens its border with Armenia and established relationships, it would have a positive impact on the study on genocide and other issues.
    “Normalization of relations is an important step to make in this direction were more independent research,” – said the scientist.”Times Higher Edutsation” IH.2011g.

  • GLAK

    Turks in Uganda raped 50 young girls
    April 1, 2012
    In Uganda, a teacher of Turkish origin Baro Emin was raped 50 young girls.

    According to Turkish Milliyet, a Turkish man-pedophile crimes became known afterhe had forgotten one of the Internet Cafe CD. Owner of the establishment gave the discovery to the police, and then became known to the shocking details of the”feats” of men.

    On the DVD was recorded two rapes. Detained teachers told the police thatentered into a sexual relationship with about 50 girls. He recorded the rape on filmand sold the sites specializing in child pornography.

    The court sentenced Emin Baro to 2 years imprisonment or a fine of six millionshillings ugandskih. Baro has paid a fine of about $ 2500 and go free, but the publicrebelled against him. Baro was again arrested. The judicial authorities have noted that against him is sufficient evidence base, which allows the death sentence.

  • GLAK

    Armenians have good reason to be offended by the Israeli government because of the non-recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Unscrupulous those Holocaust victims who are so insensitive are the people who received the same fate as they are. Such an offensive Israel’s refusal was due to his immoral desire to please Turkey – its “strategic ally”.
    Like many citizens of Israel, Yisrael Dr. Charney is strongly opposed such a shameful position of his government on the Armenian Genocide. For many years he was director of the Institute for Holocaust and Genocide (Jerusalem), he is also former president of the International Association genotsidovedov. On various occasions Charney clearly expressed his tough attitude to the officials of Israel, criticizing them for their reprehensible position on the Armenian Genocide.
    “Israel is trying to maintain friendly relations with Turkey at the expense of denying the Armenian Genocide. I am convinced that this is a mistaken policy. Of course, I do not believe that the nation, especially, the small nation can not deal with the assessment of political realities and risks to safety, but nevertheless, I think in the long term should be restrictions on legal policy, and that the denial of the history of genocide goes beyond what is permitted. ”
    “I can not comment on the Israeli government recognition of the Armenian Genocide. Israel is dead wrong on the Armenian Genocide. At the same time, thank God, now I can say that in the culture media of Israel and in our society we have won the battle for recognition of the Armenian Genocide. When a few years ago, our delegation, consisting of four members, which included Professor Yair Oron, Professor Yehuda Bauer, former minister Yossi Sarid and I came to Armenia in order to lay a wreath at the memorial to the victims of the Armenian Genocide, we really represented by the broad masses of Israeli society. “To the credit of the Jewish scholars, most of them succumbed to intimidation and took a principled stand.Czerny Israel strongly opposes all attempts to silence the Armenian genocide and exposes the political background of his rejection by the leadership of the various countries (eg USA) (1). Speaking of those who are anti-Semitic motives in seeking to prevent the spread of the truth of the Holocaust, who because of political factors turned a blind eye to human rights abuses in Turkey (it is – a member of NATO and an ally of the U.S.), Black stresses that Turkey “has spent many millions of dollars and tangible political resources in order to erase the Armenian Genocide from the history books “(1, page 67).Similar thoughts were voiced by other participants. Characterized by, for example, the position E.Fayn (Helen Fine) from the Center for Policy Research in New York City: “Consideration of the Armenian genocide is not a question of friendship, or stroke. Our consideration – it is primarily a question of truth. We can not subdivide the truth for political and non-political. We can not erase the events that happened. Problems in Turkey are determined by its refusal to recognize the genocide. This is not due to the fact that I do, as a Jew, or what makes my Armenian colleagues “(2, p 365).
    The demarche of Turkey – just a “flower” from the “bouquet” of threats, which she regularly blackmails various countries in an effort to oppose the recognition of the Armenian Genocide (the “modest” threat not to attend NATO exercises in the next threat to withdraw from NATO in general, etc. .)To paraphrase the title of one well-known sculptures Shadr Soviet sculptor (1887-1941) can be summarized as:”Cobblestone – the weapon of the proletariat, threats and blackmail – the weapon of Turkey.”
    (1) Charny, Israel W. Toward generic definition of genocide (preprint). In: The conceptual and historical dimensions of genocide. Philadelphia: University of Pensylvania Press, pp 64-94.(2) Toward the understanding and prevention of genocide. Proceeding of the international conference on the holocaust and genocide. Ed. by W. Charny.Westwiew Press, 1984.
    (3) Roger W. Smith. Denial of the Armenian Genocide. Genocide. A critical bibliographic review. Ed. by W. Charny. Facts on file Inc., 1991.

  • Dark131313

    Hrant Dink was not defending Armenian arguments. He had his own stance. Even other armenians used to think he was working for Turkish intelligence.

    No scientist or someone had been arrested or prisoned just because he denied genocide. In Turkish TV’s armenians are given voice, many people bring armenian sources forth and none is prisoned or accused.

    Turkey offered Armenia to open the border. But the offer rejected by Armenians.  Also opening the border has no relation to doing objective research on the matter together. It is just a pretext of armenians to evade facing facts.

    Those allegetions of bribe always occur and always come from Armenian side. They simply cannot accept the facts and believe that whoever denies their allegations must have been bribed. The case of Guenther Lewy is significantly a good example of this. I think you still have not taken a look at my sources. Armenians slandered him of having been bribed but then the got acquitted. 

    Everything you have written so far is pure disinformation and distortion of facts. Where are you living? On mars?

  • Dark131313

    On January 27, 1973, when an old Armenian man, George Yanikian, ambushed and assassinated two Turkish diplomats in Santa Barbara, California, Armenian terrorism burst onto center stage. For about two decades, Armenian terrorists killed more than 70 Turkish diplomats around the world (four in the United States), and wounded and maimed hundreds of innocent bystanders in the carnage they created at airports, markets, and on the streets. Besides a variety of Turkish targets, this brutal and utterly senseless terrorism engulfed the American academia as well. Armenian terrorists attempted to silence prominent history scholars in this country who refused to adopt the revisionist version of history fabricated by the Armenians themselves. In 1977, they bombed the house of Stanford Shaw, a prominent history professor at U.C.L.A. and forced him and his family off the campus.

  • Dark131313

    BritishArchives. PRO—F. 0. 371/ 6500/ E.3552, Curzon to Geddes Telegram No 176, dated March 31, 1921.

    “1915-1918 the American State Department must have been in possession of a mass of materials, since at that time the American diplomatic and consular agents, as well as the members of the “American Near East Relief Society” continued their work in Turkey. In an unprecedented humanitarian gesture this aid society was allowed by the Ottoman Government to stay in Turkey and provide care for the Armenians during their relocations, even following the entry of the U.S. into war on the side of the Allies against Germany, the ally of the Ottoman Empire. This was a lofty gesture unparalleled in the history of mankind, and an ultimate magnanimity on the part of the Turks to have allowed the hostile agents and a fanatical religious organization to move about the country freely to provide help for the Christian Armenians, subjects of the Ottoman Empire who were actively fighting against it. On March 31, 1921, Lord Curzon sent the following telegram to Sir Auckland Geddes, the British Ambassador in Washington:”

  • Dark131313

    British Archives: PRO—F. 0.371/ 6500/ E.6311 Geddes to Curzon, Telegram No 374, dated June 1921.

    “I have made several inquiries at the State Department, and today l am informed that while they are in possession of a large number of documents concerning the Armenian relocations, from the description, I am doubtful whether these documents are likely to prove useful as evidence in prosecuting Turks. Should His Majesty’s government so desire, these documents will be placed at the disposal of His Majesty’s Embassy on the understanding that the source of information will not be divulged.” [An intimation that the available documents are flimsy, as such if their sources are revealed it would be embarrassing for the U.S. State Department.] 

  • Dark131313

    British Archives: PRO—F. 0. 371/ 6504/E.8519: Foreign Office minutes.

    Thus, the meticulous search conducted by the British for 30 months with an utmost zeal to vindicate the Armenian allegations produced nothing. The much-touted “eyewitness accounts,” “hard proof’ and “evidence” proved to be grotesque lies. The British, deeply embarrassed by this unexpected turn of events, offered to exchange their prisoners of war in the hands of the Ottoman government with the deportees of Malta. At that point, those prominent Turkish nationals detained arbitrarily and willfully in Malta were no longer suspects but hostages in the hands of the British government. To spare themselves further embarrassment, the British dropped the case. Field Marshal Plumer, governor and commander-in-chief of Malta reported that all the Turkish deportees in Malta, total 59, duly embarked on board H.M.S. CRYSANTHEMUM, and R.F.A. MONTENAL on October 25, 1921. These two ships arrived at the Black Sea port of Inebolu on October 31. The exchange British prisoners were released, and they arrived in Istanbul on November 2, 1921.

  • Dark131313

    Same sources also say 500000 Muslims mostly Kurds and 50000 Jews were killed by Armenian gangs. 
    Why don’t you see it? 

  • Dark131313

    Deportation was done for the safety of Armenians. Armenians murdered more than half a million people in the eastern Turkey, and Kurdish tribes were out of control.
    So this fact is the reason why only the armenians in the eastern turkey was deported. 
    Armenians in western Turkey, especially the ones in Istanbul, were not subject to deportation.

  • Dark131313


    I [Prof. Justin McCarthy] myself was the target of a campaign, instigated by an Armenian newspaper, that attempted to have me fired from my university. Letters and telephone calls from all over the United States came to the president of my university, demanding my dismissal because I denied the “Armenian Genocide.” We have the tenure system in the United States, a system that guarantees that senior professors cannot be fired for what they teach and write, and my university president defended my rights. But a younger professor might understandably be afraid to write on the Armenians if he knew he faced the sort of ordeal that has been faced by others. 

  • Dark131313


    A two year hate and smear campaign directed against Professor Lowry forced him out of a chair in Princeton University, and out of the “Armenian Genocide” debate. The media, always mindlessly on the side of pro-Armenians, were willing accomplices in this “gang up,” and the university probably gave the professor a gag order, on the Armenian topic. Lowry was likely bitter to be left alone in this feeding frenzy, with no support from the apathetic Turks, and he probably felt it was just as well.

  • Dark131313


    Thank goodness brave men can be found who are willing to take on the formidable power of established Armenians, in the interest of letting the truth be known. One such man was Samuel Weems, a former district attorney and judge from the state of Arkansas, and a Baptist. (Not that a person’s religion should normally matter, but in this case part of Mr. Weems’ interest was in exposing the false Christianity of extremist Armenians.) While Mr. Weems was not a historian in the traditional sense, he had made it his business to explore this subject matter, traveling to study the archives in half a dozen nations… winding up as a person more knowledgeable (in this issue) than most historians. Certainly, his experience as a D.A. and judge qualified him in a much better way (than the average author) to weigh the pros and cons of the issue. When the news was announced of the publication of his book, ARMENIA: SECRETS OF A “CHRISTIAN” TERRORIST STATE, the Armenian outcry against Mr. Weems (and the resulting assassination of his character) was deafening. 

  • Dark131313

    The war with us was inevitable… We had not done all that was necessary for us to have done to evade war. We ought to have used peaceful language with the Turks…We had no information about the real strength of the Turks and relied on ours. This was the fundamental error. We were not afraid of war because we thought we could win… When the skirmishes had started the Turks proposed that we meet and confer. We did not do so and defied them. Our army was well fed and well armed and [clothed] but it did not fight. The troops were constantly retreating and deserting their positions; they threw away their arms and dispersed in the villages.

    Hovhannes Katchaznouni
    First Prime Minister of the Independent Armenian Republic
    The Manifesto of Hovhannes Katchaznouni, 1923.

  • Dark131313

    I see that reports are being freely circulated in the United States that the Turks massacred thousands of Armenians in the Caucasus. Such reports are repeated so many times it makes my blood boil. The Near East Relief have the reports from Yarrow and our own American people which show absolutely that such Armenian reports are absolutely false. The circulation of such false reports in the United States, without refutation is an outrage and is certainly doing the Armenians more harm than good. I feel that we should discourage the Armenians in this kind of work, not only because it is wrong, but because they are injuring themselves. In addition to the reports from our own American Relief workers that were in Kars and Alexandrople, and reports from men such as Yarrow, I have reports from my own Intelligence Officer and know that the Armenian reports are not true. Is there not something that you and the Near East Relief Committee can do to stop the circulation of such false reports? I was surprised to see that Dr. McCallum sent through a report along this line from Constantinople. When I called attention to the report, it was stated that it came from the Armenians but the telegram did not state this, nor did it state that the Armenian reports were not confirmed by our own reports.

    United States High Commissioner in Turkey (1919-27)
    Admiral Mark Lambert Bristol

  • Dark131313

    And that’s a funny one.  GLAK will love it.

    Edward Fox was Admiral Bristol’s man in Kars. 

    “…The Turkish forces were far inferior to the Armenians, but the latter put up no fight and ran away in the most cowardly manner. The soldiers threw away their guns, stripped off their equipment, and hid in the hospitals and orphanages belonging to the Near East Relief Committee when the Turks entered Kars. There was hardly a shot fired from the Kars fortifications and there were no troops to withstand the advance of the Turks, who marched in as if on parade. The Armenian soldiers in many cases hid in the beds with sick children. The Turks in their advance into Armenia did not do any massacring, but did, after the occupation of Kars, execute a few Armenians.”

    Edward Fox
    District Commander, Near East Relief. Kars

  • Dark131313

    And one from a Russian side,

    Below is the memorandum of Lt.-Col. Twerdokhleboff concerning the Armenian attacks on the Turkish population of Erzerum and its neighborhood from the beginning of the Russian Revolution to the reoccupation of the town by the Turkish troops on February 27th 1918.

    …During the Russian occupation the Armenians did not dare to indulge openly in deeds of violence; the looting and murder was committed in secret…. The Turks who were taken to work in the fields disappeared in like manner without a trace…. Shortly after the receipt of these oft-repeated assurances we learned of the massacre of Turks at Erzindjan. The following details I heard from the mouth of the Commander-in-Chief, Odichelidze. The massacre was no instigated by bands, but by the doctor of the town and the army contractor. As I do not know the exact names of these Armenians I cannot give them.The report runs:” More than 800 unarmed, defenseless Turks were murdered. The Armenians had dug gigantic trenches into which the poor Turks were throw after being slaughtered like a herd of cattle. An Armenian who directed the execution counted the unhappy victims. ‘ That’s seventy,’ he roared, ‘ there still room for ten more; hack away! ‘ And another ten wretches were slaughtered to fill up the gap, which was then filled in with a little earth. The army contractor wanted to provide a little diversion for his own benefit. He locked into a house eighty wretched victims, and then had them let out one aft another while he smashed in their skulls with his own hand.”…After the massacre at Erzindjan the Armenians, well armed, made their way to Erzerum….The Armenian bands, swarming from Erzindjan to Erzerum, destroyed their way all Mohammedan villages and annihilated the inhabitants. …Odichelidze has himself told me that in the village of Ilidja all Turks who were unable to escape were massacred; he saw numbers of corpses of children whose heads had been hacked off with blunt axes….Lieutenant-Colonel Griaznoff, who returned from Ilidja on the 28th February, three weeks after the slaughter, related to me what he had seen:” In the courtyard of the mosque the corpses lay heaped to a depth of two lance-lengths. There were bodies of men, women, children, old people, people of every age….” On the 27th February the Armenians crucified a Turkish woman-still alive -on a wall after tearing out her heart; she was hung head downwards.”…On the 7th February the great massacre at Erzerum began….On the 12th February the Armenians shot ten peaceful, unarmed peasants at Erzerum station; the officers, who tried to interfere, were threatened with death….In Erzerum the Armenians had set fire to the Turkish bazaar. On the 17th February I heard that the inhabitants of the village of Tepe Koj, in the district of the artillery regiment, had been completely exterminated-men, women, and children….I informed him of the butchery, and urged him to find out who was responsible. I have never heard the result of my request….In the night of the 26th-27th the Armenians eluded the vigilance of the Russian officers and perpetrated another massacre, but at once took to their heels at the first approach of the Turks. This massacre was no impromptu affair-it had been planned beforehand; all captured Turks were collected and put to death one by one. The Armenians reported with pride that the night’s toll reached a total of 3,000….As the educated classes of the Armenian population could very well have prevented the massacre, it is to be concluded that these classes played a greater part in the crime than the bands, and that, in any case, the chief responsibility rests with them.

  • Dark131313


    “When the Armenian volunteers taking the stolen spoils, the Russian soldiers trying to hinder them was shot by the Armenians. Moreover, the volunteers are plundering continuously and find pleasure in any kind of committing murder. In order (to) end these murders, a Council of War was established in Van. In addition, to prevent these crimes, it was deemed necessary to form the unities of discipline.”

    General NIKOLAYEF

  • Dark131313

    Following the takeover [by Russians] of Van, local Turks were killed… Russian commanders witnessed incidents of rape, robbery and murder there. Documents pertaining to these are available at the History of War Museum.

    Prof. Kallerya Bellova,
    Moscow State University

  • Dark131313

    And one prominent case showing what kind of people these Armenians are. From the Hodjali massacre in Azerbaijan.

    “When I and Khachatur entered the house, our soldiers had nailed a 13-year-old Turkish child to the window.He was making much noise so Khachatur put mother’s cut breast into his mouth. I skinned his chest and belly. Seven minutes later the child died. As I used to be a doctor I was humanist and didn’t consider myself happy for what I had done to a 13-year-old Turkish child. But my soul was proud for taking 1percent of vengeance of my nation. Then Khachatur cut the body into pieces and threw it to a dog of same origin with Turks. I did the same to three Turkish children in the evening. I did my duty as an Armenian patriot. Khachatur had sweated much. But I saw struggle of revenge and great humanism in his and other soldiers’ eyes. The next day we went to the church to clear our souls from what done previous day. But we were able to clear Khojali from slops of 30 thousand people.”

    Zori Balayan,
    “Russian Finger Inside Capitol Hill : Armenian Lobby?” (Ocrober 17, 2007.) 

  • Garabedyan

    From 1915 to 1917 the Young Turk regime in the Ottoman Empire carried out a systematic, premediated, centrally-planned genocide against the Armenian people. One of the documents authenticated by the Turkish authorities in 1919 is a telegram sent in June 1915 by Dr. Sakir, one of the leaders of the secret organization that carried out the planning and implementation of the genocide. He asks the provincial party official who is responsible for carrying out the deportations and massacres of Armenians within his district: “Are the Armenians, who are being dispatched from there, being liquidated? Are those harmful persons whom you inform us you are exiling and banishing, being exterminated, or are they being merely dispatched and exiled? Answer explicitly…”
    The evidence of intent is backed also by the outcome of the actions against the Armenians: it is inconceivable that over 1,000,000 persons could have died due to even a badly flawed effort at resettlement. Moreover, the pattern of destruction was repeated over and over in different parts of Turkey, many of them far from any war zone; such repetition could only have come from a central design. Further, the reward structure was geared toward destruction of the Christian minority: provincial governors and officials who refused to carry out orders to annihilate the Armenians were summarily replaced.
    Armenian men were drafted into the army, set to work as pack animals, and subsequently killed. Leaders were arrested and executed. Then the deportations of women, children, and the elderly into the deserts of Syria and Iraq began. The American ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, Henry Morgenthau, immediately recognized that the forced marches into the desert, and the atrocities that accompanied them, were a new form of massacre “When the Turkish autorities gave the orders for these deportations, they were simply giving the death warrant to a whole race; they understood this well, and in their conversations with me, they made no particular attempt to conceal the fact.”
    The ambassadors of Germany and Austria, representatives of governments allied with Turkey, also quickly realized what was taking place. As early as July 1915, the German ambassador reported to Berlin. “Turks began deportations from areas now not threatened by invasion. This fact and the manner in which the relocation is being carried out demonstrate that the government is really pursuing the aim of destroying the Armenian race in Turkey.” And by January 1917 his successor reported: “The policy of extermination has been largely achieved; the current leaders of Turkey fully subscribe to this policy.”
    More than 1,000,000 Armenians perished as the result of execution, starvation, disease, the harsh environment, and physical abuse. A people who lived in eastern Turkey for nearly 3,000 years lost its homeland and was profoundly decimated in the first large scale genocide of the twentieth century. At the beginning of 1915 there were some 2,000,000 Armenians within Turkey; today there are fewer than 60,000.
    Despite the vast amount of evidence that points to the historical reality of the Armenian genocide–eyewitness accounts, official archives, photographic evidence, the reports of diplomats, and the testimony of the survivors–denial of the Armenian genocide by successive regimes in Turkey has gone on from 1915 to the present.
    The basic argument of denial has remained the same–it never happened, Turkey is not responsible, the term “genocide” does not apply. The tactics of denial, however, have shifted over the years. In the period immediately after World War I the tactic was to find scapegoats to blame for what was said to be only a security measure that had gone awry due to unscrupulous officials, Kurds, and common criminals. This was followed by an attempt to avoid the whole issue, with silence, diplomatic efforts, and political pressure used where possible.

  • JakeThreefeathers

    Good news for Hai Tad (Armenian Cause). 

    The Armenian Revolutionary Federation has announced a major discovery that will put the official imprimatur on Armenian genocide tales. The ARF branch office in the village of Mamadoupoulos located in Tutsiland, with the tireless efforts of the Kardashian sisters, has just found a bombshell of a document in the village archives. The discovery was made by the Kardashian sisters who were at the village looking for a prospective Tutsi husband for Kim Kardashian, so that she can stage another fake wedding and rake in another 20 million dollars.

    The Kardashians discovered the memoirs of the Tutsi Grand Admiral Armin Lumumba Tulumba Tatlisi. It seems that in 1915, Adm. Tulumba Tatlisi was a young officer posted as a naval attache at the Tutsi embassy on Mt. Ararat, just a stone’s throw away from Noah’s Ark. While there, Adm. Tulumba Tatlisi personally witnessed atrocities committed against innocent Armenian terrorists and cutthroats. While many innocent Armenian goons and thugs were killed, thanks be to Armenian gods many more innocent,   Armenian terrorists, including Gen. Dro (Dro the Butcher), managed to escape to Russian Armenia where they lived to fight another day – in the service of Nazi Germany.

    The Armenian eager beavers of Glendale, Fresno and Watertown are urged to send “campaign contributions” to the village council members of Mamadoupoulos, Tutsiland, in order to get them to pass an “Armenian genocide resolution”. After that, it will be easier to obtain a similar resolution from the Pygmy Tribal Council. Armed with these resolutions, the gallant Armenian armchair warriors of the glorious Armenian nation can march right to the Hague and sue the dastardly Turkish government for gazillions worth of Armenian drams. 

    Just imagine, with all that lovely Turkish loot awarded by the Hague, every Armenian freeloader in the world can go on to live the life of Riley on Easy Street.

  • Dark131313

    The armenian population was barely 1 million before 1915.
    You fake not only names and telegrams but also everything…including numbers, dates, people, events…

    Below link shows you why Armenians started to kill all the muslims and other people in their neighborhood. Because they were minority in everywhere they live and that’s why an armenian state was only a dream. So they had to exterminate and expel all the other muslims and jews.'apres_la_statistique_du_livreJaune.png

  • Dark131313

    So Turks invaded their own land :) :):)

  • Anonymous

     Is there no moderation here whatsoever, hpronline? Not only is this guy Dark 131313 spamming the hell out of this article, his contributions are far more grotesque than the usual Turkish propaganda. Though I have to admit that posts like this tend to come back like a boomerang, because anyone with the time to delve into the issues for five minutes can realize that scary stories like these have been told for centuries…

  • Anonymous

     “Revival of our Souls”, was allegedly written by Mr Zori Balayan in
    1996. Mr Balayan is a prominent and distinguished Armenian writer and
    publicist reputed internationally for his humanism. Mr. Balayan has
    never written the book alleged or any other book the content of which or
    the quotations from which are presented in. It therefore represents an
    act of slander, which should entail legal consequences. This act of
    slander is particularly aggravated by the accusations of murders
    allegedly committed by Mr Balayan.” Representatives of the Parliamentary

    I suggest you take more responsibility for what you post in the future..

    If you are truly interested in what this author has to say, you can find list of the actual books he has written at Wiki.

  • Dark131313

    On April 24, 2009–Armenian Remembrance Day– President Barack Obama issued a statement “remember[ing] the 1.5 million Armenian [deaths] in the final days of the Ottoman Empire.” The President stumbled.

    To paraphrase Mark Twain, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and the number of Armenians who are claimed by Armenians and their echo chambers to have died in an alleged World War I genocide. Almost a century later, the number of deaths they assert oscillates between 1.5-2 million. But the best contemporary estimates by Armenians or their sympathizers were 300,000-750,000 (compared with 2.4 million Ottoman Muslim deaths in Anatolia). Further, not a single one of those deaths necessarily falls within the definition of genocide in the authoritative Genocide Convention of 1948. It requires proof that the accused was responsible for the physical destruction of a group in whole or in substantial part specifically because of their race, nationality, religion, or ethnicity. A political or military motivation for a death falls outside the definition.

    Immediately after the war, when events and memories were fresh, Armenians had no incentive to concoct high casualty figures or genocidal motivations for their deaths. Their objective was statehood. Armenians were encouraged by the self-determination concept in President Woodrow Wilson’s Fourteen Points, (while conveniently forgetting that they were a minority in Eastern Anatolia where they hoped to found a new nation). Armenian leaders pointed to their military contribution to defeating the Ottomans and population figures that would sustain an Armenian nation.

    Boghus Nubar, then Head of the Armenian Delegation to the Paris Peace Conference (1919), wrote to the French Foreign Minister Stephen Pichon: “The Armenians have been, since the beginning of the war, de facto belligerents, as you yourself have acknowledged, since they have fought alongside the Allies on all fronts, enduring heavy sacrifices and great suffering for the sake of their unshakable attachment to the cause of the Entente….” Nubar had earlier written to the Foreign Minister on October 29, 1918, that Armenians had earned their independence: “We have fought for it. We have poured out our blood for it without stint. Our people played a gallant part in the armies that won the victory.”

    When their quest for statehood shipwrecked on the Treaty of Lausanne and annexation by the Soviet Union in 1921, Armenians revised their soundtrack to endorse a contrived genocide thesis. It seeks a “pound of flesh” from the Republic of Turkey in the form of recognition, reparations, and boundary changes. To make their case more convincing, Armenians hiked the number of deaths. They also altered their story line from having died as belligerents against the Turks to having perished like unarmed helpless lambs.

    Vahan Vardapet, an Armenian cleric, estimated a prewar Ottoman Armenian population of 1.26 million. At the Peace Conference, Armenian leader Nubar stated that 280,000 remained in the Empire and 700,000 had emigrated elsewhere. Accepting those Armenian figures, the number of dead would be 280,000. George Montgomery of the Armenia-American Society estimated a prewar Armenian population of 1.4-1.6 million, and a casualty figure of 500,000 or less. Armenian Van Cardashian, in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1919, placed the number of Armenian dead at 750,000, i.e., a prewar population of 1.5 million and a post-war figure of 750,000.

    After statehood was lost, Armenians turned to their genocide playbook which exploited Christian bigotries and contempt for Ottoman Muslims. They remembered earlier successful anti-Ottoman propaganda. United States Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire during the war, Henry Morganthau, was openly racist and devoted to propaganda. On November 26, 1917, Morgenthau confessed in a letter to President Wilson that he intended to write a book vilifying Turks and Germans to, “win a victory for the war policy of the government.” In his biography, “Ambassador Morgenthau’s Story,” Morgenthau betrays his racist hatred toward Turks (“humanity and civilization never for a moment enters their mind”) and unconditional admiration for Armenians (“They are so superior to the Turks intellectually and morally.”).

    British Prime Minister Gladstone’s histrionic figure of 60,000 Bulgarian Christians slaughtered in 1876 captured the imagination of the west. The true figure later provided by a British Ambassador was 3,500–including Turks who were first slain by the Christians.

    From 280,000-750,000, Armenians initially raised their death count to 800,000 to test the credibility waters. It passed muster with uninformed politicians easily influenced by campaign contributions and voting clout. Armenians then jumped the number to 1.5 million, and then 1.8 million by Armenian historian Kevork Aslan. For the last decades, an Armenian majority seems to have settled on the 1.5 million death plateau–which still exceeds their contemporary estimates by 200 to 500 percent. They are now testing the waters at 2.5-3 million killed as their chances for a congressional genocide resolution recede. It speaks volumes that champions of the inflated death figures have no explanation for why Armenians on the scene would have erred. Think of the absurdity of discarding the current death count of Afghan civilians in the United States-Afghan war in favor of a number deduced in the year 2109!

    Armenians have a genuine tale of woe. It largely overlaps with the tale of tragedy and suffering that can be told by Ottoman Muslims during the war years: 2.4 million deaths in Anatolia, ethnic cleansing, starvation, malnutrition, untreated epidemics, and traumatic privations of war under a decrepit and collapsing Empire.

    Unskewed historical truth is the antechamber of Turkish-Armenian reconciliation. That is why the Government of Turkey has proposed an international commission of impartial and independent experts with access to all relevant archives to determine the number and characterization of World War I deaths. Armenians are balking because they are skeptical of their own figures and accusations.

  • Dark131313

    You don’t like to read. So watch it: 2 mins.

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  • turkla

    actually Turkey is part of NATO

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