United States — May 30, 2012 11:36 pm

Liberalism versus Socialism

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In 2008, President Obama made this statement of principle, otherwise known as a gaffe: “When you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” John McCain used the opportunity to call him a socialist. So did Rick Perry in his 2012 campaign. Mitt Romney has so far preferred using code. But as the campaign gets tougher, he too might start using the S-word. Especially now that France has chosen to exhibit a real live specimen of the species in the Élysée.

So what is socialism? What makes a socialist different from a liberal?

Philosophers of liberalism and socialism actually have very different visions for the world. They don’t disagree at all on the idea that spreading the wealth around is good for everybody. In fact, this idea finds one of its greatest expressions in the work of the philosopher of welfare liberalism, John Rawls. He proposed two principles of justice, one of which—the “Difference Principle”—claims that inequalities are permissible if and only if they benefit the worst-off person. Since many inequalities arising from the free market violate this principle, some wealth must be redistributed.

The difference between liberals and socialists, rather, is founded on their different answers to this question: Can the principles by which I vote differ from the principles by which I live?

Liberals say yes, they can. Rawls, for example, said that you must be guided by  principles of distributive justice, such as the Difference Principle, only when you think about the basic structure of society. Roughly, those times are when you self-consciously think of yourself as a citizen: when you vote, when you debate political ideals, when you think about those ideals in your time alone. Otherwise, you don’t need to heed principles of distributive justice.

So a liberal allows you to accept a salary that is four, ten, 100 times greater than that of the least well-off person in your society, so long as, when you step into the voting booth, you don a new hat and act so that all inequalities are arranged to benefit the least well-off.

That picture deeply disturbs socialists. Jerry Cohen, the preeminent contemporary philosopher of socialism, wrote:

“Liberally minded economists take for granted that economic agents are self-seeking, or, like James Meade, they think that they should be, and then they want people as political agents to act against the grain of their self-interest: pile up your earthly goods on the mundane plane of civil society but be a saint in the heaven of politics.”

Cohen didn’t think that that was a good idea. He, like other socialists, thought that a well-ordered society is not just a mass of persons who each has the right amount of goods. All people should unite in bonds of fraternity, mutual respect, and regard for each other’s dignity. And those things cannot grow in the moral-political schizophrenia allowed by liberalism. So “the personal must be made political”: principles of justice must be made principles of life.

This translates into greater wealth redistribution because one justification for inequalities is now unavailable. Liberals, per the Difference Principle, might allow people with scarce talents to receive relatively high salaries because (a) everyone is made better off when those people work those jobs, and (b) those people will only work those jobs when they are given incentives. But if you are applying the Difference Principle to your own life, you can’t say “I am permitted this salary, because that is the only way I will work this job at these hours.” For that is not the only way you could work. You could choose to work your job for benefits equal to that of the least well-off person. And that is what the socialist demands.

Clearly America is not a socialist nation. That possibility is a long way away; and, the liberal might argue, there it will always remain. Inescapable human frailties make it impossible. Concern for others will not motivate enough people to work all the arduous though necessary jobs. Nor might the socialist ideal be desirable: the price of communal ties is individual liberty, and it might be better for each of us that we not have a close, and therefore demanding, relationship with each person who is to provide us with some good.

But the socialist can point to other nations, such as Sweden or Denmark, in which, supposedly, a true egalitarian ethos has taken hold, nations which have not only generous social welfare provisions, but also citizens who are shocked by accepting privileges for themselves which others do not have. And to address the desirability of such polities, she can point experience of the people who live in them. They tend to be happier than we liberals.

 

Photo credits:

Front: Pete Souza, Official White House Photographer (whitehouse.gov) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/18/obama-hollande-afghan-compromise

http://www.edgeblog.net/2009/5-myths-of-modern-liberals/

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  • Eli Kozminsky

    Thank you for writing an even-handed and erudite study of the “s”-word (the one with more than four letters). 

    But are you sure that the difference between liberals and socialists isn’t founded on their different answers to THIS question: Who should own the means of production?

    Liberals, in the very American sense, would (likely) answer that private individuals should be owners of capital. But in response to some of the excesses of untrammeled capitalism, they make provisions for, say, a social safety net, or state investment in human capital. This way, liberals can satisfy the Rawlsian difference principle by ensuring that inequalities exist only insofar as they serve the general welfare, either by providing funds for a safety net via taxation or raising the net prosperity. (More important to no-modifer liberalism is Rawls’ first principle of justice: an equal and maximal scheme of liberties for everyone in a given society.)  

    Socialists, on the other hand, would answer that society (hence, “social”-ism) or the state should own industry. Capital is publicly run. This idea predates G.A. Cohen by more than a century (and Marx! though by less time), so I’m not sure the ethos idea is really the essential characteristic. Cohen’s egalitarian ethos works to reveal how Rawls’ Theory of Justice creates a system of cold incentives–rather than a deeply moral framework for society. But I’m not sure a socialist ordering of society necessarily assuages Cohen’s moral concerns (I don’t think he was so sure, either). The state could own all of industry, but an egalitarian ethos may still be lacking absent legal and regulatory coercion. Perhaps this is one reason why Marx calls for a revolution in consciousness in order to inaugurate communism, a system which he viewed as a seismic improvement over socialism.  

    Consider this, as well: One of Cohen’s own illustration of his criticisms is a comparison of Germany, where CEO’s on average make ~6:1 the salary of the lowest paid people in their companies, to America, in which they make ~30:1 (if my memory serves me correctly). Does the strong presence of an egalitarian ethos in “liberal” Germany somehow render the country “socialist”? I don’t think so. 

    Note, too, that Scandinavian countries resemble “liberals” more than “socialists” under my definitional suggestions. Typically, these countries are considered “social democracies,” a postwar model featuring highly “free” markets (see the Heritage Foundation’s Economic Freedom Index thingy if you don’t believe me) and a mondo welfare state. I’m of the opinion that America differs from these countries in degree–not kind. 

    If you’re looking for summer reading, G.A. Cohen’s “If You’re An Egalitarian, How Come You’re So Rich?” is a  fascinating and all-around witty exploration of this topic.

  • Eli Kozminsky

    *Sorry: I should add that Germany was selected for comparison with the USA because, at the time of Cohen’s writing, the countries had similar productivity, per capita income, HDI rankings, etc. Ceteris paribus, the salient difference in this analysis was corporate culture. 

  • ShadrachSmith

    There are only two forms of government, and they are:

    The Leviathian or Natural Rights. Stated otherwise, either government exists to control the citizen’s lives, or to serve the citizen’s needs. Either government is the purpose of human existence, or an accessory to group relations.

    Either the government can take whatever it wants from you, or that power is limited by a social contract. For you Marxists/Socialists/Liberals or whatever else you may call yourselves to obsess over the nuances of your different paths to tyranny is arcane hair-splitting. Nobody cares.

    I told you that part so I can tell you this part.

    The most ignorant, annoying, intellectually vapid political argument of the left is contained in the statement: You don’t even know what socialism is. It is used by all leftists to dodge responsibility for the cold fact that yes, the government control of your life does in fact come from Nietzsche’s philosophy by way of Marx and has been reiterated into intentionally incomprehensible Rawlsian gibberish. Just so you can say, “You don’t even know what it means.”

    Well, ladies, neither do you. Do you mind if I vote for the other guys?

  • http://www.facebook.com/charlie.hartford Charlie Hartford

    I’m assuming this post is a joke, but on the off chance that it isn’t: “Nietzsche by way of Marx?”  Seriously, there is nothing in the substance of your post that is worth responding to – you clearly have read neither Marx or Nietzsche. If you had, you would know that Nietzsche wrote after Marx and despised socialism. Perhaps you should actually engage with the ideas of the thinkers you criticize before leaping to the ludicrous conclusion that all political philosophy can be reduced to Hobbes and Locke. 

    Also, read up the on the repression of the Paris Commune and tell me who the Leviathan is in that story. 

  • ShadrachSmith

    No, my post isn’t a joke, neither is it about timeline.

    Nietzsche furnished the best philosophical justification of the Leviathan to date. That the furry mustache came later in time, does not change the fact that it is Nietzsche who provided the best philosophical justifications for both Marx and current Leftist thought. For you poor guys, Nietzsche is as good as it gets in trying to justify tyranny in the name of advancing humanity. 

    All the other justifications for reducing free men to serfs, are simply less good, less sound, less able to withstand utilitarian analysis.

    Are you keeping up yet :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=744265022 Adam Kern

    Thanks, Eli, for your thoughtful comment. Another friend of mine made a very similar point. I’ve realized that I set up this article in a slightly misleading way. I should not speak of this question as grounding THE difference between liberals and socialists. Liberalism and socialism are broad ideologies with many variations. This is one way of making the cut. The primary point of interest is the Rawls/Cohen debate. These are both very interesting and powerful views, and I wanted to explain them a little bit in this space.

  • Grom

    Are you for real?

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  • remaining free

    It’s all Hegelian Dialectical horseshit designed to confuse those incapable of deeper critical thought. In a word they advocate a philosophy of theft, designed to ruin economies and the independence and freedoms of the individual man. Liberal, socialist or communist, all are cleverly cloaked arguments for institutionalizing theft, differing only by degree and pace, they all go the same place, serfdom. Free markets being dangerously self serving? How about free consumers being totally free to choose, both their jobs according to wanted skills expressed by those same people and the product that those skills produce. The sincere re-distributors do not understand free markets and those that manipulate them fear free markets while the rest go along for the ride unaware of the magnitude of the well flavored poison they imbibe..

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